Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,13:53)Hi MB, God is the Father of spirits, a term applied to angels and to what gives life to all creatures. But He has His own Spirit which is only given at times and to those He has chosen. Christ Jesus was so blessed and now is that source for us.Hi Nick,Agreed on most. But is Jesus now that Spirit? Or is he…[Read more]

Oops, I usually just go down the line answering posts in order.  I didn't see that you split my post into two.  Disregard my last post.You said:Quote …so my answer is given that YHWH is a triune God, Yeshua is the only true God. Satan, by contrast, is a false god.And you have scriptures that you infer this from.  But is there any scripture th…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,10:20)Hi MB, God is Spirit and God is one.He is the Father of lights and the Father of spirits .All life originates in Him and His angelic spirits are before His throne.Hi NickThanks. So only one Spirit in existence, or many? I know that everything, spirit or not originates with God. Mankind does, but we are…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 30 2010,12:01)Hello Michael.I've answered that question in this thread:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….79;st=0Despite what you might think of yourself you haven't brought many (if any) new objections to the debate. Your points have already been raised (and answered) many times over in this forum.Hi Paul,Really? A thread…[Read more]

Hi Roo,You're speaking to me again?  Oh happy day!You said:Quote Who cares what the word begotten meant in the 4th century! All that matters is how “monogenes” was used before and up to the time the new testament was written.No, what you told me in our debate was that “by the time the LXX was written, 'monogenes' NO LONGER meant 'only begotten'.…[Read more]

Hi WJ,Thanks for the response!  You said:Quote I find it interesting that you would take the words of a coward like Eusibus over the 100s of credible Hebrew and Greek scholars. But this is what you said about the same coward in your thread:It would also contradict the fact that Eusebius was a prominent figure at the Council of Nicene. Not to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,08:41)Hi MB, The Lord is the Spirit.What now, Nick?What did I say? Sometimes you remind me of Dustin Hoffman in “Rainman”. Five minutes to Wapner. Either provide a translater or stop speaking in tongues.peace and love,mike

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 30 2010,08:01)JA,Do you honor the Son “just as” you honor the Father? Answer plainly PLEASE! Jesus said that if you don't honor Him “just as” you honor the Father then you do not honor the Father Himself.Answer plainly.Kangaroo JackHey Roo,I'm still waiting for your answer. Is the Father your ONLY God?peace and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 30 2010,03:40)Hi AllThe Bible clearly says there is “One Spirit” not two, three or four! 1 Cor 12:13 – Eph 2:18 – Eph 4:4.Hi WJ,I'm not as up on the “spirits” as you and JA.But what of the seven spirits in Rev? What of the spirit of man? How can you say there is only one spirit?peace and love,mike

Quote (karmarie @ May 29 2010,21:59)Its so strange, sometimes I post here, without thinking (just reading you know) then I think 'why did I do that'? I know either TT will say something snarly back or WJ will just ignore me, so whats the point? I have to learn not to do that. Seriously.Hi Karmarie,Roo and WJ are no more children of God than you…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2010,16:55)NHBecause Jesus said the Holy Spirit was “another” person!And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another (allos) Comforter (paraklētos), that he may abide with you for ever; John 14:16allos – adjective (modifys the noun), which means; “another, other”Paraklētos – Masculine noun, which means;…[Read more]

Quote (Arnold @ May 29 2010,16:42)Wait a minute, you are putting Jesus on the same level then Satan? Are you out of your mind!!!!!! No way. Jesus was the firstborn of all creation a Son of God!!! Satan is a fallen Angel. He wanted to be like God Himself and throw Him of His Throne…. Jesus saw Satan fallen like lightning from Heaven. He now…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2010,14:18)MikeNot so for Paul and Peter and John and Thomas and many Church Fathers call him their God!Only Thomas says “my god” that I am aware of.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2010,14:16)Yes, the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit is my “One true God!Hi WJ,So your God IS different than Paul's and Jesus'? Why? Their God and mine is the Father only.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2010,14:11)What?Here is the context…Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2010,23:39) It's similar with Jesus. He said the Father is greater. He said the Father is the only true God. He wasn't implying that Satan wasn't real. He knows that Satan is a true god. And he wasn't implying that he is not real. He is the…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ May 29 2010,11:33)Mike is not calling Jesus 'The God' YHVH, nor is he calling Satan, YHVH, for he says of Satan, 'a god'. I think the error is in including 'true'.Mike, just need to be a bit more careful, buddy. I can forgive you such errors but your adversary won't.Keep it tight and straight my brother and all will prevail..KJ,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2010,09:36)Were they “true gods” at all Mike, or were they gods formed by men?Hi WJ,I made a very nice post a while back in this thread. Maybe you missed it?Was the mighty one, or “god” that delayed the angel from coming to Daniel a man-made god? Could man have made a god so powerful that Jehovah had to send…[Read more]

Btw Paul,Jesus says THE FATHER is the only true god. Scripture says He is the God of gods. Jesus call Him “my God”. Therefore, Jesus is NOT the only true God, but one of the other gods that THE FATHER is the God of.So answer your own question. Is Jesus, although not being the only true God, still a true god? If so, then so is Satan, for he…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 29 2010,08:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2010,14:52)So you will ignore the fact that Jesus is the “firstborn of all creation”,You take this to mean “first created” as it's consistent with you Arian theological presupposition. Examine the usage of the word in the (whole) Bible and you'll find that it refers to preeminence. If…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 29 2010,08:37)MikeThe Father, Son and the Holy Spirit is my “Only True God”, for they are “One”, “One Spirit” Three persons, One God!WJHi WJ,So your God is different from the apostle Paul's God? Jesus calls only the Father “my God”. So your God is not the same as Jesus' God, either? I'll follow scripture and…[Read more]