Ed: Where’s the mathematical model for explaining how NZ gets a longer sun-cycle during our Winter?

I’m not at my computer right now, but will try to show you later. In the meantime, is a spinning ball orbiting the sun the ONLY POSSIBLE explanation?

Since it’s not, my ability or inability to provide a mathematical model is irrelevant. If I c…[Read more]

Ed: That language is symbolic, it is not saying the Sun and Moon are gone.
No Night there is also symbolic of ‘darkness’, as in evil, not nightime.

How could you know such a thing? Compare…

Revelation 22:5
There will be no more night in the city, and they will have no need for the light of a lamp or of the sun. For the Lord God will shine on…[Read more]

T8: The Original Flat Earthers
Ignoramuses persecuting people who discovered truth.

The original flat earthers were Adam and Eve. Then every single person who lived up until perhaps 500 years ago – when Satan’s sun-worshiping religion began to take hold in the minds of those who either hated God or, at the least were willing to hold the…[Read more]

Here’s a coin/table experiment done right…

T8: Okay even if Science is not your forte, try and understand it like this.

At sea level the PSI is higher than it is higher up in the atmosphere…

Learn the difference between buoyancy, density, and vacuum. Within a pressurized system, there can be layers. There is no layering between pressurized and vacuum (the absence of…[Read more]

T8: Of course, with the heliocentric model, we can also predict eclipses and the like with 100% accuracy. The math is based from the heliocentric view and you can picture the math with the heliocentric view. The Flat Earth has no such prediction model. The truth tends to be 100% accurate.

The math has been known for millennia, and is based on…[Read more]

T8: It’s called perspective. I’ve been pointing this out to you for a while now.

No, it’s called “we can’t prove, after decades in ‘outer space’, that the earth orbits the sun”.

That was the point.

T8: Flat Earthers want us to believe that an eternal God made a small disk with a glass roof and that this truth is hidden from us by demonic sha…[Read more]

T8: When the sun is at the centre, the wandering planets orbits become simple elliptical orbits like ours. It’s so simple that it would be way too much of a coincidence that such simple symmetry would be a coincidence.

The model was first proposed with CIRCULAR orbits – which, if you could accept that there was some unknown force causing balls t…[Read more]

T8: If the sun is darkened, then you have two options.

The sun itself is not giving its light or full light.
The sun appears dark because something is blocking out the sun. Both are possible.

Agreed. We are on the same page that some process currently unknown to us will cause us to experience a much dimmer sun. We agree that the ACTUAL sun…[Read more]

T8:  Why wouldn’t you assume the sun is a sphere. We travel around it and it is always sphere. Never see any straight lines, corners, flat areas.

Do we really travel around it?  How do you know?  How could you definitively prove that claim?  Because until you can, it remains a baseless claim… which brings us back to:  How do you know the sun ISN’T flat?

T8, please remove 909, 910, 913, 914, 915, 916, 917, 918,919, and 920.

Thanks.

T8:  Some amateur guy took photos of the Andromeda Galaxy.

You’ve got to be kidding me!  You seriously think someone took that “photo” from earth?  His setup is linked to a software program dude!  His “camera” isn’t picking up anything other than lights in the sky – just like we can all see looking out at the night sky.  The rest is all comp…[Read more]

Ed: The problem I have, with what their saying, is they provide
no adequate answers for the exculpatory evidence.
Until then, for me their idea falls short.
There is nothing for us to re-prove, Ed.  Do you understand that the heliocentric model is only a MATHEMATICAL CONSTRUCT?  Did you know that famous cosmologist George Ellis said, in 1985, t…[Read more]

T8:  Imagine if there was a group of people in the world that believed the sun was flat. Think about how you might feel a bit sorry for such people right. That is how most people feel about those who believe in the Flat Earth.

Umm… why would you assume the sun ISN’T flat?  Do you have proof that it isn’t?  Of course not.  So why would anyone fee…[Read more]

Mike: They don’t look much like huge nuclear fireballs, do they?

 

T8:  You know the answer. A better telescope. Here is our star which is much easier to capture than other stars that are much more distant. Looking very nuclear fireballish to me.

A better telescope?  Lol.  The P900 has an 83x zoom – orders of magnitude greater than any teles…[Read more]

T8:  Angels can look like light. Angels of light. Scripture refers to angels as stars. The angels are cast down to Earth. Seems simple to me.

You need to take a stance.  Are the stars we see in the night sky angels or not?  If they are, then STARS will fall to the earth as the angels (who are those stars) are cast to the earth.  If the stars we…[Read more]

Mike:  Why do you suppose Jesus would talk about the actual sun (not shining), and the actual moon (refusing to give HER light) – but NOT be referring to the actual stars falling to the earth? Note that he didn’t say the stars would be blocked by a cloud, or that they’d stop shining in the sky.

T8:  Mike, your bias has stopped you from thinkin…

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T8: It could be that as the atmosphere darkens, a third of the angelic host are cast down.

So the atmosphere will darken and block out a third of the stars in the sky at the same time that a third of the angels are cast to the earth? Sounds forced to me, like someone’s doing a lot of reaching.

Why do you suppose Jesus would talk about the…[Read more]

Is it possible that the stars we see in the sky ARE angels/sentient beings… as is said throughout Enoch and the Bible?

Okay, but does that align with the most obvious meaning of “a third of the stars fell to the earth”? I mean, when Jesus showed John that a third of the rivers would become bitter, and a third of the trees would be destroyed, we rationally understand that as actual rivers and actual trees, right? We’ll presumably be able to observe these ruined…[Read more]