Quote (katjo @ June 13 2010,13:39)Mikeboll64… Better read Rev, really close 1;8 THE LORD GOD says;(red letters.. Jesus's words) I AM THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, I AM THE ONE WHO IS AND WHO WAS, AND IS TO COME….I AM THE ALMIGHTY!!!!!(17) i AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST.. Its all over Revelation…katjoOh, okay. I didn't know it was in red letters. I'll…[Read more]

Quote (katjo @ June 13 2010,13:39)Mikeboll64… Better read Rev, really close 1;8 THE LORD GOD says;(red letters.. Jesus's words) I AM THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, I AM THE ONE WHO IS AND WHO WAS, AND IS TO COME….I AM THE ALMIGHTY!!!!!(17) i AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST.. Its all over Revelation…katjoOh, okay. I didn't know it was in red letters. I'll…[Read more]

Quote (katjo @ June 13 2010,13:32)Hey nick, I bet your going to say moses and peter were called the Everlasting Father too…katjoJesus was never called that in scripture. God foretold that he would be, so maybe that is yet to come?mike

Quote (katjo @ June 13 2010,13:32)Hey nick, I bet your going to say moses and peter were called the Everlasting Father too…katjoJesus was never called that in scripture. God foretold that he would be, so maybe that is yet to come?mike

Quote (Lightenup @ June 13 2010,13:04)It was enlightening to read what Ignatius wrote about the begotten Son being begotten before the ages.Hi Kathi,It was Eusebius who said that. He added “firstborn of every creature” right in there with the “begotten”. mike

Quote (Lightenup @ June 13 2010,13:30)When I find one Jehovah sending the other, you will say that it is the first person, third person who are both the same or you will claim that it is really an angel.Hi Kathi,So you disagree with my post of Zec 2? Why? Why would God Almighty ever be SENT by anyone? Does that even make sense to you?mike

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,13:23)Burden of proof is the obligation of a party on one side of a dispute or issue to provide sufficient evidence in support of their position.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proofMike has asserted his position. He needs to substantiate it.Okay Mr. smarty pants,katjo is the one who asserted Jesus was the…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,13:23)Burden of proof is the obligation of a party on one side of a dispute or issue to provide sufficient evidence in support of their position.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proofMike has asserted his position. He needs to substantiate it.Okay Mr. smarty pants,katjo is the one who asserted Jesus was the…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,13:17)It could be taken to mean preeminent over creation, even before all ages. Why not? In the same sense He was the “Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world” before he was crucified.First, John the Baptist had a deeper knowledge of who Jesus was, is and would be than anyone else alive at that time. Second,…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,13:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2010,12:58)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,12:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2010,12:09)And Nick is right that our spirit goes back to who it came from.And that would be Yeshua.They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” (Acts 7:59,…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,12:55)No Mike. You've made the assertion. The burden of proof in firmly on you to back it up.Of course we know you can't. I just wish you'd learn from your mistakes.Stupid games, Paul.The scriptures clearly tell of one who is God of gods. He alone is the mightiest of the mighty gods – hence the title Almighty. Oh,…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,12:55)No Mike. You've made the assertion. The burden of proof in firmly on you to back it up.Of course we know you can't. I just wish you'd learn from your mistakes.Stupid games, Paul.The scriptures clearly tell of one who is God of gods. He alone is the mightiest of the mighty gods – hence the title Almighty. Oh,…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,12:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2010,12:09)And Nick is right that our spirit goes back to who it came from.And that would be Yeshua.They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” (Acts 7:59, NAS)    Hi Paul,Are you talking about the same Stephen who could only see T…[Read more]

Hi Dennison,I would have loved to have you moderate my debate with Jack. It was crazier being on the inside of it than it looks from the outside. t8 has given his ok to try it. I just challenged katjo to a trinity debate. If he accepts the challenge and agrees to your idea, I'm very willing to let you keep things in focus just to see how it…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,12:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2010,12:32)Jesus is never called the Almighty.It's an empty assertion unless you substantiate it.:-I'm asserting that he wasn't. If you think he was, prove it.mike

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 13 2010,12:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2010,12:32)Jesus is never called the Almighty.It's an empty assertion unless you substantiate it.:-I'm asserting that he wasn't. If you think he was, prove it.mike

Okay, Mr. $5 words.Should I dumb it down for you?  He thought Jesus was the firstborn of all creation BEFORE ALL THE AGES.  How could that possibly have meant “preeminent over mankind”?You haven't looked into it?  Well, look.  It's right there in front of you.And I agree that Eusebius was only a man.  I'm not asking you to agree with his view…[Read more]

Quote (katjo @ June 13 2010,00:44)mikeball64 ..Scripture tells us He came into his own. Old Testament tells us He would. What He would go threw, and that He would fulfill the scriptures. He became one of us. he took on a new nature, but without sin. Do you know incarnation is from Latin, meaning “flesh”  that does not mean that God was turned…[Read more]

Quote (katjo @ June 13 2010,00:44)mikeball64 ..Scripture tells us He came into his own. Old Testament tells us He would. What He would go threw, and that He would fulfill the scriptures. He became one of us. he took on a new nature, but without sin. Do you know incarnation is from Latin, meaning “flesh”  that does not mean that God was turned…[Read more]