Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 17 2010,13:42)You just want to have the last word all the time. You won't say to yourself, “Hmmm…this Eusebius argument ain't working” and then try another argument.Jack, it's like I said to WJ further up this page.  All I wanted is for one or all of you three to be honest enough to admit what was plain to see.  I d…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 17 2010,13:28)In the end Eusebius retracted his views anyway.Hi Jack,What views did he retract? mike

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2010,13:40)Hi MB, This is our hope. That like Jesus we receive of the LIVING Spirit now and when we sleep in Christ we can be raised by that Spirit to eternal life.Hi Nick,Okay, thanks. Or maybe that we never sleep at all!mike

Dude, I will debate you about whether or not we should have a debate about the debate!   Paul, I just re-read the outline, and right from the jump we are up to 4 pages of text before we get started.  That's exactly what Jack and I both want to avoid.  Why can't we go question by question?  I ask one.  He answers and asks one of his own? I will…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2010,13:13)Hi MB, Anyone blessed with the Spirit of Christ and begotten from the dead cannot die again, including JesusHi Nick,Scriptures?Mike

Hi Gene,You said:Quote Like in Isaiah where we are told , that GOD (ALONE) BY HIMSELF created the world and everything in it. There are many scriptures that say GOD is the ONLY source of all creation both on earth as well as in the heavens.  I agree.  God is the sole Creator of everything.  But he did that THROUGH Jesus.  Jesus could not have cre…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ June 16 2010,17:19)And Gene, when you are asked the question, 'what does Jesus mean by ''what if you see the son of man ascending to where he once was''?' what do you say to that?Or 'Father, glorify me now, with the glory I had with you before the workd was?'And also where Scriptures says that Jesus 'created all things and…[Read more]

Hi Dennison, Sorry, bro. There is nothing in those scriptures that says Jesus is this “Son of Man” he keeps talking about in the third person.peace and love,mike

Hi Dennison, Sorry, bro. There is nothing in those scriptures that says Jesus is this “Son of Man” he keeps talking about in the third person.peace and love,mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,07:12)Mike,Choose a topic already old man!Hi Dennison,Respect your elders, young man!   Look, we have a perfectly good debate going right now.  We started off debating the trinity doctrine.  The posts started getting too long, so I broke it down into 23 separate points.  I think it is on page 5 of our deb…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 16 2010,15:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2010,14:27)WJ, Paul, RooNo million word posts.  Let's take ONE point at a time. peace and love,mikeHi Mike,That is what I said to WJ months ago!He strings many unrelated points togetherthinking that will make what he says stick.I'm glad you could see through this as well!God blessEd J…[Read more]

Quote (Arnold @ June 17 2010,09:50)if Math. 28:19 was added i do not know, but like I said there are more Scriptures that tell me that there is no trinityHi Irene,Don't give in to him. Matt 28:19 just as it is written does not in any way prove, or even imply a trinity of three persons in a godhead. Your wording makes is sound as if you concede…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,08:30)Humorous debate.Go ahead and start moderating, Dennison. There are two questions posed for Jack. I'll await his DIRECT answers. Maybe you can give him a nudge to answer directly and to the point and not go off in a hundred different directions.Let's go! mike

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 16 2010,18:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2010,13:28)His name is YHVH and He is the ONLY One with that name, no matter how you, Paul and Roo try to twist the scriptures.What scriptural texts have I twisted? The list them and describe exactly how they have been twisted by me.Or retract this baseless allegation.Did you not tell…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 15 2010,19:23)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 15 2010,19:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 15 2010,13:44)He's just scared, Dennison.  It's okay.  He ran away once, so he definitely doesn't want to be locked in a cage with me again.      Mike,Was David God's firstborn or not (Ps. 89)? the RooA straight forward question, demanding a ye…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 15 2010,15:48)This verse is talking about the passover when the God killed all the firstborn children of Egypt.  This verse clearly shows that 'first fruits' is associated with 'firstborn.'  Mike, you can see that…right?Hi Kathi,Yes, I can clearly see it.  It was/is a good point, and they can't refute it.  You know wha…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,Seriously, let it go please.  Jesus is not the God that I worship.  Scripture is VERY clear that there is only ONE that we should worship and serve as God.  His name is YHVH and He is the ONLY One with that name, no matter how you, Paul and Roo try to twist the scriptures.Did you not see my “Son of Man” post where Jesus switches be…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 15 2010,13:53)Quote (t8 @ June 14 2010,13:21)Is it like saying, the President of the USA was born in Honolulu, even though he wasn't the president yet.Hi t8,No, it is more like Obama being in Honolulu 3 years BEFORE he became the President saying, “The American people gladly GAVE me their support as President of the United…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 16 2010,02:33)Mike………I believe he was Both (a) son of man and (THE) son of man, whats the difference?. I know the definite article (the) is specific and (A) is general , but what does that have to do with anything. Both can apply to Jesus right?peace and love brother………………..geneHi Gene,I asked because…[Read more]

Hi WJ,You're getting closer to being completely honest.  You said:Quote What proof? That a questionable Arian supporter may have suggested that Jesus had a beginning.Now if you take the final leap and admit that there is no doubt about what Eusebius DID suggest in his letter, you will be honest.  You don't have to agree with him, but all three o…[Read more]