Quote (JustAskin @ June 17 2010,18:19)Please can Mike and KJ remember that the focus and source of our Salvation is through the Testsment of Jesus Christ, through the Scriptures, not Eusebius and what he may or may not have said!Okay.  To JA, Nick And Roo:How do you know that God is the head of Christ?  Is it because you read Greek?  NO.  It is…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,14:48)Yes, evidently in the received text, you do. Gr. me – click on the blue “I”.Should pull up a screen with this text:The KJV New Testament Greek LexiconStrong's Number:   3165    Original Word Word Origin me a shorter (and probably originally) from of (1691) Transliterated Word TDNT Entry Me None Phonetic Sp…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,14:48)Yes, evidently in the received text, you do. Gr. me – click on the blue “I”.Should pull up a screen with this text:The KJV New Testament Greek LexiconStrong's Number:   3165    Original Word Word Origin me a shorter (and probably originally) from of (1691) Transliterated Word TDNT Entry Me None Phonetic Sp…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,14:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,14:30)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,14:10)Yes, SF, you and I can see the common sense in it. What about you Mike? Are you going to make a concession to make this happen or will you keep posturing and preening to the point where we can only conclude that you're evading a debate…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,14:44)Look at it like this Mike. All discussions have to have a terminus, right? Since you're the type of person who always has to have the last say you'll probably experience others ending discussions with you a lot of the time. No one wants to go around the theological merry-go-round ad infinitum, at some point we…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 18 2010,03:06)Show where Christ is speaking of TWO subjects in Matthew 19.Prove he ISN'T.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 18 2010,03:06)There is only one subject in Matthew 19. But there are clearly TWO subjects in Exodus 23:20-25:Prove it I'm still waiting.mike

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,13:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,13:36)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,11:32)Quote (david @ June 19 2010,11:20) The burden rests with you.No David. It's your assertion, the burden of proof rests firmly on you.We've been through this before, remember? I asked you to show me from the contextual details of the…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,14:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,14:07)your verse doesn't have the “I” in the Greek.  Nice try, but you've failed.  Please try again!   Are you sure about that? It certainly is in the Textus Receptus. See for yourself:http://www.biblestudytools.com/interli….3&t=kjvYou have to be careful with that site, Pa…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,14:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,14:07)your verse doesn't have the “I” in the Greek.  Nice try, but you've failed.  Please try again!   Are you sure about that? It certainly is in the Textus Receptus. See for yourself:http://www.biblestudytools.com/interli….3&t=kjvYou have to be careful with that site, Pa…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,14:10)Yes, SF, you and I can see the common sense in it. What about you Mike? Are you going to make a concession to make this happen or will you keep posturing and preening to the point where we can only conclude that you're evading a debate you suspect you may be dealt a painful lesson in?How many times must I say…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,13:48)I like the idea of letting one of them (Mike) pick the resolve and the other (KJ) the format. Otherwise this isn't going to happen. I agree with KJ that there's a potential for the debate to go on ad infinitum if Mike runs with a freestyle format. I wouldn't sign up to that. I imagine KJ, like myself, would like…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 18 2010,06:42)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2010,14:02)hi, Discussion has wandered away from the trinity. what trinity?NHNot really, because Jesus being the “Son of man” is proof of his Deity!WJThen you are in a real pickle here, WJ. Because you can't even prove that Jesus IS the Son of Man. Maybe Jesus is just a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 18 2010,06:42)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2010,14:02)hi, Discussion has wandered away from the trinity. what trinity?NHNot really, because Jesus being the “Son of man” is proof of his Deity!WJThen you are in a real pickle here, WJ. Because you can't even prove that Jesus IS the Son of Man. Maybe Jesus is just a…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,14:02)Yes but who's defining the requisite standard of proof in the son of man proof texts? You. It's no great accomplishment to tighten up the criteria to such a degree that almost nothing could be proven scripturally.By contrast I'm making it super easy for you Mike. I only want some inference in the El Shaddai =…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,14:02)Yes but who's defining the requisite standard of proof in the son of man proof texts? You. It's no great accomplishment to tighten up the criteria to such a degree that almost nothing could be proven scripturally.By contrast I'm making it super easy for you Mike. I only want some inference in the El Shaddai =…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 18 2010,04:29)Mikeboll said:Quote It can't be done.  So instead of letting Is 1:18 win the point, I challenged him to prove from scripture that Jesus is the Son of Man.  As far as I know, it can't be done either.What! Is Mike really serious? Jesus expressly declared that He Himself is the Son of Man.13 When Jesus came i…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 18 2010,04:29)Mikeboll said:Quote It can't be done.  So instead of letting Is 1:18 win the point, I challenged him to prove from scripture that Jesus is the Son of Man.  As far as I know, it can't be done either.What! Is Mike really serious? Jesus expressly declared that He Himself is the Son of Man.13 When Jesus came i…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 18 2010,03:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2010,22:59)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,14:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2010,12:22)Hi Dennison, Sorry, bro.  There is nothing in those scriptures that says Jesus is this “Son of Man” he keeps talking about in the third person.peace and love,mikeI didnt say that…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 18 2010,03:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2010,22:59)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,14:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2010,12:22)Hi Dennison, Sorry, bro.  There is nothing in those scriptures that says Jesus is this “Son of Man” he keeps talking about in the third person.peace and love,mikeI didnt say that…[Read more]