Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 20 2010,09:33)Wrong Mike,We answer you but your problem is you don't like the answer so you just go on about the same thing as if it hasn't been answered!WJLies, Keith.What did Ignatius mean when he said the “unbegotten” Father was the “begetter” of the “only begotten Son”? Use your “only” and “unique” and “only one…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2010,16:58)And as Paul has shown you the “I” is in the Greek in Matt 16:13This is truly embarrasing for you Mike! But it shows me that no matter what is shown you in scripture you will choose to believe a lie!Hi WJ,First, the “I” is NOT in the Greek. Paul is mistaken.Second, this started as a joke to show Paul…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2010,16:58)And as Paul has shown you the “I” is in the Greek in Matt 16:13This is truly embarrasing for you Mike! But it shows me that no matter what is shown you in scripture you will choose to believe a lie!Hi WJ,First, the “I” is NOT in the Greek. Paul is mistaken.Second, this started as a joke to show Paul…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,15:55)And here's more evidence that the translations that use the received text have the Greek word for “I” (mh, me) in them.http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=Mat&chapter=16&verse=13It IS more evidence…..for me! First, it shows that out of all the translations listed, ONLY the KJV and NKJV have the word “I” in…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,15:55)And here's more evidence that the translations that use the received text have the Greek word for “I” (mh, me) in them.http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=Mat&chapter=16&verse=13It IS more evidence…..for me! First, it shows that out of all the translations listed, ONLY the KJV and NKJV have the word “I” in…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,15:40)Do you never concede even when proven unequivocally that you're wrong??Hi Paul,This is from the link I gave you:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.qeo;n {N-ASM} oujdei;? {A-NSF} eJwvraken {V-RAI-3S-ATT} pwvpote: {ADV} monogenh;?…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,15:40)Do you never concede even when proven unequivocally that you're wrong??Hi Paul,This is from the link I gave you:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.qeo;n {N-ASM} oujdei;? {A-NSF} eJwvraken {V-RAI-3S-ATT} pwvpote: {ADV} monogenh;?…[Read more]

Hey all you guys who think this “game” of Paul's is worthwhile!We've been working on one of my games for a week now, and Jack, WJ and Paul have also been unable to substantiate that Jesus is the Son of Man.Maybe Oxy and Rokkaman can join in, since you think Paul's game is so fun?mike

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 19 2010,19:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,13:18)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,13:11)Mike can you at this point agree to a debate with KJ? You can pick the resolve (a colossal advantage), let him pick the format and lets be done with all this posturing….Agree to a debate?  We HAVE ONE GOING!   Jack should agree t…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 19 2010,18:52)Mikeboll daid:Quote And why can't we finish what we've already started? For two reasons:1. We have already beaten the topics into the ground. All you have to offer is repetition. Let me ask you: Why not start a new topic?2. Because there is no such word as “finish” with you. You will continue to compete…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 19 2010,16:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 18 2010,20:15)Quote (t8 @ June 19 2010,12:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,11:49)t8, I don't believe the devil is in the details of scripture.  The Bible is the exception to that rule, right?What I mean by that statement is that our yes is yes and our no is no.Some people…[Read more]

This is a post from WJ to me in the prototokos thread.  I want to address ALL of his points one by one so we can get somewhere finally.  If I respond to all of his claims in one huge post, too much gets lost in the mix – and too many of my refutes get ignored in his following post to answer my post. I have lettered his points for easier r…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 19 2010,21:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,12:15)Seriously, I honestly just wish they would answer the points I make once in a while.When people do not answer, it is often because they cannot. Be encouraged by that because if they were true, they would show you the truth that would set you straight. But if they have nothing,…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 19 2010,19:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,15:19)It gives me back “monogenes” AND “prototkos pasa ktisis” that they were trying to take away from me.Mike!They stole your monogenes!!! It's okay now, Dennison. Ignatius and Eusebius found it and brought it back to me. mike

You see, Paul? They are both stupid games. There is only one Almighty. He is immutable. Therefore, if it says it is the Father or Jehovah once, that is all it takes.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,15:17)No Mike. I'm asking you to exegete the Genesis El Shaddai passages and show me inferentially that it's the Father of Yeshua in view. You know this Mike. Stop playing silly games now….And I'm asking you to show proof that Jesus is the Son of Man.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,15:19)You do understand there's more than one Greek texts, don't you? And that there's textual variations between them?Yes. Do you understand the one used in Online Bible Study Tools that you linked does NOT have the Greek word “I” in the text? It is in the English of the KJV, but it is NOT EVEN THERE IN THE…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 19 2010,15:19)You do understand there's more than one Greek texts, don't you? And that there's textual variations between them?Yes. Do you understand the one used in Online Bible Study Tools that you linked does NOT have the Greek word “I” in the text? It is in the English of the KJV, but it is NOT EVEN THERE IN THE…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 18 2010,04:03)IF Mike has interpreted fragmented qoutes from Eusebius correctlyIF?Good, Jack. You are getting closer to the light. Don't be afraid to come into it. mike

Hi WJ,Quote Really from what I have seen it wouldn't matter if Eusebius himself in the flesh told you that Jesus did not have a beginning but was always with the Father, you would still deny it! But that is exactly what I should say to you, Keith!  Because the letter he wrote of his beliefs agree with mine, not yours.  Would you believe if he t…[Read more]