Very beautiful and uplifting, K. may God bring you peace and comfort in your time of grievingmike

Hi WJ,  After much unecessarily waisted time, we have closure on your point “a”.  To summarize, you asserted I can't prove Jesus was the only begotten Son of God from ONLY the fact that he wasn't known as that before he came in flesh.  I said that although he was called that in Psalm 2:7, I agree that no one at that time knew that it was Jesus wh…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 29 2010,02:01)Mike……….I have done some research on the Only Begotten phrase in scripture, and according to what i have read the word begotten has be added the Hebrew word used there is one word (ONLY) and translators added (Begotten) there. Check it out , type in Only begotten definition on the INTERNET.  Tell me…[Read more]

Hi All,In an effort to save time, I'm adressing this to Dennison, Keith, Jack and JA.I said:Quote Why on earth should a person have to ask a simple question so many times and go through so much havoc to get a simple answer?  Wow!  That was like pulling teeth.  Thank you!  Now if you were WJ, we'd be moving on to his next point.  Dennison said…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 28 2010,14:14)Mike,WJ ill test the waters for you,I will say NO.Why on earth should a person have to ask a simple question so many times and go through so much havoc to get a simple answer? Wow! That was like pulling teeth. Thank you! Now if you were WJ, we'd be moving on to his next point. mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 28 2010,14:12)yes this is my point, but if we do not understand what FULLNESS IS. than nothing else matters.IF Jesus Christ is everything to us, who is life, and who is everything. Than how can we say he is not God. YOUR STARTING EVERYTHING OVER. we had a roll going.anyways!!! i told you already,my refutations!!! that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,13:56)Hi MB, Labelling others is easy but it might stop you learning from them.Who did I label?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,14:05)Hi MB, Tradition dies hardYa know Nick,They have seen us post “the only true God” verse many times. I think they fail to understand the extreme nature of the rest of that verse. Jesus starts by saying “This means ETERNAL LIFE……”I want that…….badly. mike

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,14:05)Hi MB, Tradition dies hardYa know Nick,They have seen us post “the only true God” verse many times. I think they fail to understand the extreme nature of the rest of that verse. Jesus starts by saying “This means ETERNAL LIFE……”I want that…….badly. mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 28 2010,13:56)your question is irrevalent to the subject of monogenes.It wouldnt matter either way. Its not proof either way what ever is revealed to us. My question didn't have two ways – so the “either way” comment doesn't apply. Nor does the “irrelevant” comment. It is relevant to me, so please, just a yes or a…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ June 27 2010,18:29)You can justify yourself as much as you like Mike, but I am more than satisfied with what the Lord has taught me, and I am reminded of why I left this forum last time.. and the time before lolSuit yourself. They were only scriptural points that refute your beliefs – that's all. I don't get you people. It's like…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ June 27 2010,18:29)You can justify yourself as much as you like Mike, but I am more than satisfied with what the Lord has taught me, and I am reminded of why I left this forum last time.. and the time before lolSuit yourself. They were only scriptural points that refute your beliefs – that's all. I don't get you people. It's like…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 28 2010,13:51)Mike!I told you already im not argueing abuot Jesus being God,i told you, that we are discussing about this FULLNESS that Jesus has. Why cant you stay on subject,why do i have to repeat this mike?If we cant agree on this simple aspect than there is no point of going further. I asked you to agree on these…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,13:43)Hi MB, Bibles are translated from DIFFERENT manuscripts. The KJV type ones chose the commonest but perhaps the most recent. The others used different choices some choosing older ones that are less common-wisdom is requiredYes Nick,Very enlightening. But my question was:I don't get you, Nick. Are you saying…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 28 2010,13:43)to answer your question directly Our revelation is irrevelant. Its the Fact of what happen is what has validation. begetting is an occurance, a role.Hmmmm….in all that “manifesto” beliefs of yours – which btw, we're not discussing, you forgot to answer the simple yes or no question I asked of you.Is…[Read more]

Quote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,10:06)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,09:30)Hi RM, If you love God wou will love the Son born of Him.And you will love his brothers born in the same wayWhen the bible says Jesus is The Only Begotten of The Father.That's exactly what it means.No other man can be born in the same way.Where do you get this…[Read more]

Quote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,09:26)I think this “unique” stuff is of the spirit of The Anti-Christ.Amen RM! mike

Quote (Oxy @ June 27 2010,18:27)Haven't I heard? Of course I've heard. What's your point?Well Oxy, you said:Quote Jesus is the only begotten of the Father, but we who have received Christ have been grafted into the vine so that we may be joint heirs with the Son, also sons of God, born of the Spirit.Shouldn't you have changed the words I bolded…[Read more]

I don't get you, Nick. Are you saying the text SHOULD read “god”?mike

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,13:27)Hi MB, Translations depend on manuscript choices. They differ.Just read the green print, Nick.