Whoo Hoo!  You FINALLY answered, bless your heart.I asked: When it says “all power and authority”, does it mean above Jehovah or not?You said:Quote The answer is an obvious “NO”, because scriptures tell us Jesus is not above the Father nor beneath the Father but at his right hand!We'll get to the “right hand” and “beneath” things soon enough.    …[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 30 2010,07:16)So I responded to all your points once again here (third post down), then you claim in your next post here (4th post down) that you were frustrated, and then begin whining again about the post.Really WJ?Stupid games.  You have never answered my question.  You did end runs around it.  You finally an…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,06:20)So point “a” is open again, because we need to be clear what monogenes is,  is it an identity, a moment in time? what is its purpose, and what does it mean?Do you even know what point “a” is, Dennison?  Did you not get the part where I started this thread to point by point answer WJ's questions?  Was on…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,06:17)in this thread? you didnt start over, i was playing a joke on you.Thank you for your honesty.mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,06:17)Mike,When i say it smells, its because im saying yoru question seems supscious and i was right.Hi Dennison,There was nothing “suspicious” about it at all. WJ said the term monogenes wasn't applied to Jesus until he was flesh. After pointing out that it actually was applied to him before, I just wanted…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2010,02:11)Mike….actually the new testament was written in Aramaic and Hebrew (originally) but translated later into Greek is the way i recall.Hi Gene,The NT was written in Koine Greek – with the possible exception of Matthew – which MAY have been written in Hebrew and then translated into Greek.peace and love,mike

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,11:29)Do you disagree with Nick that the creatures and elders around the heavenly throne were idolaters because they sang a praise song to the Lamb which was about the Lamb?Hi Jack,Am I not alllowed to praise my son when he does well? Does that make him God when I do? This is silly. God never said He is the…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 29 2010,07:25)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,08:43)Hi Jodi, Satan means adversary and the adversary is one of them.His rule is different from God's as he works through adversaries His adversary spirits enter men and dwell in them making them unclean.Hi Nick, It is God who makes, the deaf, dumb, blind, mad, diseased. No…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,14:35)Hi MB,What do you think?Hi Nick,I think what Jesus taught and implied. He is absolutely nothing without the Father, his God, just like the rest of creation. All things come FROM the Father, THROUGH His Son, Jesus Christ. The Father is the source of everything, including His Son.mike

Quote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,15:44)My God has has always been everything.RM,Should we take this literally? If your God is Jesus because your God is “everything”, then your God is also Satan, mikeboll64, viruses, all the evil in the world, etc…..Please explainmike

Disclaimer for Roo so he doesn't start crying again.I am NOT equivolating Jesus with either water or oxygen. He is much more to all of us that those things.mike

Quote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,14:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 28 2010,12:45)Hi All,The Greek of 1 Tim 3:16 doesn't have the word “god” in it.  At least the MSS used by the NWT and Online Bible Study Tools.  The word is “hos”, which means “who”.  http://www.biblestudytools.com/interli….6&t=kjvpeace and love,mikeApparently all the translations un…[Read more]

Dude, are you crazy?   You said:Quote its amazing how you refuse to admit that your wrong about collosians.   Its a general fulllness. and we were dicussing your “logic” which was ur orginal refutation. now your logic is gone. Wrong as compared to what?  Your version of right?  Okay, let's say it is a general fullness.  Jesus has “ALL FULL…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,02:19)Mikeboll said:Quote What about archeaological proof?Mikester! The topic is the plurality of God (or not). Archaeology cannot verify this either way. It is strictly determined by scriptural exegesis. Now don't be ridiculous.Can you prove from scripture that God is not a plural one? I can prove that He is.…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,09:21)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,08:45)Hi KJ,We who are in Christ worship God with him.Your faith is in other gods.So you deny the legitimacy of songs to Christ and about Christ?Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,09:21)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,08:45)Hi KJ,We who are in Christ worship God with him.Your faith is in other gods.So you deny the legitimacy of songs to Christ and about Christ?Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,08:42)Hi WJ,Anyone can say Jesus is Lord but only to some it is truth and that is what the verse refers to.Why do you call me LORD LORD and not do as I say?Exactly Nick,Jesus taught us how to pray and WHO to pray to.  Yet they don't do what he said.Jesus taught us that our God was the same person as his God, but…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,08:42)Hi WJ,Anyone can say Jesus is Lord but only to some it is truth and that is what the verse refers to.Why do you call me LORD LORD and not do as I say?Exactly Nick,Jesus taught us how to pray and WHO to pray to.  Yet they don't do what he said.Jesus taught us that our God was the same person as his God, but…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,05:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 28 2010,14:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,14:05)Hi MB, Tradition dies hardYa know Nick,They have seen us post “the only true God” verse many times.  I think they fail to understand the extreme nature of the rest of that verse.  Jesus starts by saying “This means ETERNAL L…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,05:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 28 2010,14:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,14:05)Hi MB, Tradition dies hardYa know Nick,They have seen us post “the only true God” verse many times.  I think they fail to understand the extreme nature of the rest of that verse.  Jesus starts by saying “This means ETERNAL L…[Read more]