Quote (martian @ July 25 2010,11:08)Form (morphe) – nature. Comes from the base of the word meros that means to have an allotment, a division or share, piece, portion.6who, although He existed with an allotment or portion from/of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,7but emptied Himself, taking the nature of a b…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 25 2010,08:54)Hi MB, His anointing was unto eternity.But his humility allowed him to abide in the will of God.Hi Nick,So then what was it that he emptied himself of to be made in human likeness?mike

Hi Dennison,WHAT?!? I have no idea what that post was about. mike

Hi Martian,You said:Quote For years I have wasted time debating with those that are no more fair with scriptural analisis then Hitler was fair to the Jews.Some of us feel it is YOU who is unfair with scriptural analysis. mike

bump for KJ, JA and WJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 25 2010,07:58)Hi MB,Jesus Christ was in the form of God as his full anointing was of God.Hi Nick,So at what point in his human existence did he empty himself of this “anointing” and be made in human likeness?mike

Hello David,You make some EXCELLENT points mixed in with some thoughts that seem odd to me.I've heard you say people don't address your posts.  I'm not telling you how to post, but it seems like you throw every single thing you believe into one post.  And I can't speak for others here, but I hate to answer the long posts because then YOUR r…[Read more]

Martian,This is the closest Juan comes to answering my question:Quote All verse 7 is saying is that Jesus refused to use his esteemed position for his own interests, instead, even though he was human like the rest of us, he resisted the temptation to follow his own desires and chose to follow the will of God, to obey God to his death.That doesn't…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 25 2010,02:18)MikeHere is the Article you refused to read on the other thread. You going to ignore it again?Yes Martian,As a matter of fact I am. Juan is not here for me to ask what I've been asking all of you to no avail:If he WAS in human form while he was “in the form of God”, then how could he “make himself nothing” by…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 25 2010,01:59)Have this attitudeWhat did he empty himself of?There is your context. Start there.Hi Martian,I didn't think you would show. He emptied himself of his godly form to be made in the form of a human. It's written pretty straightforward. There's really not much of a mystery here. So why can't you get…

Quote (Arnold @ July 25 2010,01:13)O.K. let me see if I can give my two cent.  Phil. 2 states that He emptied Himself.  The Question is of what did He emptied Himself of.  When we read in John 17:5 we can tell that He was with the Father and had a glory.  Now we do know that He is a Spirit being now…… and most agree with that.  So why is it t…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 25 2010,01:28)Mike…………..If Jesus according to preexistences created everything them he would have had to be in (THE) Beginning and No one was there in (THE) Beginning except GOD Alone.  Here is something to chew on brother.Isa 44:24…..> Thus saith the LORD, they redeemer, and He that formed thee from the…[Read more]

Hi Martian,You said:Quote For years I have wasted time debating with those that are no more fair with scriptural analisis then Hitler was fair to the Jews.Some of us feel it is YOU who is unfair with scriptural analysis. When are you going to pipe in about Phil 2 on my new thread?mike

Hi Martian,You said:Quote For years I have wasted time debating with those that are no more fair with scriptural analisis then Hitler was fair to the Jews.Some of us feel it is YOU who is unfair with scriptural analysis. When are you going to pipe in about Phil 2 on my new thread?mike

Mike's 7th RebuttalJack said:Quote It implies nothing more than the Word was a different person. Example: In the beginning was the Woman, and the Woman was WITH the Man, and the Woman was Man. The Woman is not a different “entity” but rather a different person.THE woman Eve was most definitely a different entity, or being, than THE man Adam.  So…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 24 2010,02:30)Its a strawmans argument since the word “Theos” (God) does not classify identity, but a being that is in a metaphysical class of its own.Yes WJ,A class that Paul included Satan and others in.mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 24 2010,02:30)Its a strawmans argument since the word “Theos” (God) does not classify identity, but a being that is in a metaphysical class of its own.Yes WJ,A class that Paul included Satan and others in.mike

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 24 2010,17:48)Hi MB, God was in Him.He spoke and acted as God.Hi Nick,Yes, God's spirit filled him as it did many prophets of old. Which of them were “in the form of God” while they were human? And which of them “made themselves nothing by being MADE in the form of a human” after they already WERE human?mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 23 2010,14:29)Mike………..you left out a definite article here (THE BEGINNING) Why did you do that is it because the Article qualifies which beginning it is talking about,Hi Gene,Are you aware of a Greek mss that has the definite article before “beginning”? I quote the Wescott and Hort, which doesn't.As far as the…[Read more]

Sorry Gene, But that's just silly IMO. Could we also ask God to glorify us with the glory WE had before in his presence?Are you aware of any glory you previously had in God's presence BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD?Come on man. And you say I force the scripture?mike