Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,10:13)Hi MB,Jesus CHRIST is the Word of God.The anointing is the Spirit of Christ.God sends His Spirit and createsHi Nick,So God's Holy Spirit, which is a part OF Him, is His only begotten Son through whom everything was created?mike

Quote (davidbfun @ July 26 2010,07:30)Hi Mike,I'm not a JW but have many friends that are. Nobody has an idea of what this post is about?Hi David,Most of my family are JWs.  But I still love them!     That was a joke, I have nothing against Jehovah's Witnesses at all.I suppose your thread is trying to say since we don't really know the correct pr…[Read more]

Hi Nick and Gene,Luke 21:8He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them.Matt 715″Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,07:40)Hi MB, Through the Spirit of Christ. The Spirit createsHi Nick,Explain that statement for me please. mike

Quote (barley @ July 26 2010,05:25)No, I do not think so.  Wait, I know we are not.  We are discussing Philippians 2.Would be so kind as to stay on subject?barleyHi barley,Right you are about the topic of this thread, and thank you for reminding the others.  So how about an answer to the bolded question I keep asking?But for now, we are only de…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 26 2010,06:37)Mike……….You are not answering the question right , i was not talking about Jesus (NOW) position (NOR) His prior Berth on earth existence , But Paul was talking about His (EARTHLY) existence , that was a past existence for Jesus  at (THE) time Paul wrote the text. GET IT? Jesus was existing on the…[Read more]

Quote (Arnold @ July 26 2010,04:55)We used to have another W.J. coming here on H.N.all the time, and I thnk that He got chased away.  Don't let that happen to you……IreneHi Irene,No, the other David is still around.  He has assured me that he couldn't ever be “chased away” from HN.   Btw, I don't think David B Fun is a JW.  Are you Dav…

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2010,06:18)Hi MB, Would you judge the GIFTS OF GOD according to your perceived idea of their usefulness? The gift of tongues is to also help edify us and to help us pray for needs we do not even know aboutNick Gene and Oxy,Your Father in heaven knows what you need before you even ask for it. (Matt 6:8)And I'm pretty…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 26 2010,04:00)I am spending far too much time with this computer game. My publisher is on me to finish my next book and I need to work there. Plus I have been practically housebound for 2 years. I am now able to walk again and I need to go do some things. I will try to back to it when I canHey Martian,You sure you don't want…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 25 2010,14:33)Hello Irene,If Jesus is the firstborn of all things created….He IS the BEGINNING (since God has no beginning.)You are right! Jesus had a beginning…as the son of God.DavidHi David,Be careful with that kind of phrasing.  I'm debating SimplyForgiven right now on this very thing.  He thinks that since Jesus i…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 25 2010,14:26)Col 3:10 and have put on the new self who is being renewed to a true knowledge according to the image of the One who created him…..One = GodGod created him (Jesus) Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God….3:10 is only reiterating and proving that Jesus is a created being…..of God.DavidHi David,In…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 25 2010,14:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2010,08:50)Hi Martian,You said:Quote For years I have wasted time debating with those that are no more fair with scriptural analisis then Hitler was fair to the Jews.Some of us feel it is YOU who is unfair with scriptural analysis. mikeInstead of making accusations why don't you post…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 25 2010,14:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2010,08:50)Hi Martian,You said:Quote For years I have wasted time debating with those that are no more fair with scriptural analisis then Hitler was fair to the Jews.Some of us feel it is YOU who is unfair with scriptural analysis. mikeAccording to some, I am dishonest and yet I have…[Read more]

No, Jesus isn't THE God. I already know the reason you'll say it has to be two people talking, but I want you to say it so I can scripturally refute it.So………Why does it “distinctively” call for two different persons?mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 26 2010,02:54)Mike………..Your assumption is that Jesus was equal to GODI have NEVER thought Jesus was God or equal to Him.mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 26 2010,02:45)if you get a Greek linear you will see it say (existing) as a present tense state not a past tense stateGene,I and t8 have already answered your “tense” point.  You imply that Paul is saying Jesus, who is NOW existing in the form of God……..If that is the case, how did Jesus, who is NOW existing in the…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ July 25 2010,15:05)Quote (Arnold @ July 23 2010,10:21)What I find so ironic is that in both of my post nobody has challenged me, why?   Is it that it is true that The Word of God is Jesus Christ?  Well it  is……And He will come again as The Word of God and King of Kings and Lord of Lords…..IreneHi Irene,Jesus is the “W…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 26 2010,03:14)Mike………See the problem you are (ASSUMING THINGS NOT WRITTEN) if we all do this we can't make (NO) Head way here about anything, you want us to be specifice about things but you seem to not do that. Lets stay specific Scripture says GOD did it ALONE now you need to accept that as stated right Brother?…[Read more]

Hi David,You said:Quote Next, you have two other concepts that prove his pre-existence if this is what the debate is about.No, this thread is ONLY about whether Phil 2 infers that Jesus pre-existed.You said:Quote How can Jesus a human, be equal (same as) to God?Exactly!  If Jesus was nothing more than a human like us, why would equality with God…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 25 2010,12:33)Mike…………Martian is presenting Phil 2 that right way brother. You can not use it for any proof text , you need to try something else maybe another scripture will help you case better.peace and love…………………………geneHi Gene,There are many more scriptures coming……can't you just…[Read more]