Quote (barley @ July 30 2010,13:57)Does that literally mean that God has a bakery next to his throne, and some angels or cherubims were given the task of baking manna?  If the manna literally came from heaven, why?  Couldn't God find some way of producing it here on earth?What if the manna ascended back up to where it was before?Hi barley,How do y…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 30 2010,03:13)Mike says he checks the context. This is untrue. Context means you check any other scriptures having to do with the subject. To say that Christ ascended to a literal place he was before presupposes that he was there to begin with.John 6:33″For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven.”John 6:38″I…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 30 2010,12:28)He existed in the heart of the Father who knew that a particular point in time He would conceive a Son in the womb of the virgin Mary, and he knew what He would speak His Word to humanity through him, and He knew that Jesus would obey this same Word without sin even unto death on the cross.Hi Marty,And you know…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 30 2010,02:58)You seem to be missing the authentic Biblical connection betweenRev.19:11, 19:13-16 and Isaiah 63:2-4, 63:9-10; don't you 'think'?I don't know. Why don't you spell it our for me.mike

Quote (martian @ July 30 2010,02:35)You say-But before you start, please DIRECTLY answer the bolded two parts of my last post like I asked.Reply-Your questions have no importance at all if I am dealing with a dishonest researcher.Your process of interpretation is a sham, invented to snare scripturally uneducated into your false doctrine. I am not…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 30 2010,06:45)As I understand it to participate in discussions you must answer direct questions. If you cannot answer a question just say so but don't ignore it. I do agree however that the questions should be limited to a few at a time.Hi Wm,I agree 100%.  I hate the long drawn out posts, but I think anyone can post as…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 29 2010,06:13)Keith,They think that by their annihilationist doctrine they will escape judgment. The fear of judgment is the unconscious reason for their saying that souls cease to exist. They are unconsciously saying, “God can't judge me personally because I will cease forever. So God will transfer my memory into a…[Read more]

Hi WJ,You said:Quote Why do you always look for scriptures to contradict Jesus words or the scriptures in the NT that prove that our Spirits leave this flesh tent and are still alive and conscious?Which scripture says what you just implied?Your source said:Quote But the dead know not any thing “Cut off from life, they know nothing of what passes…[Read more]

Jack,You said:Quote The Sadducees believed that the souls of men die with the body just as Mike and JA believe. I asked Mike to google “the Sadducees” and for some reason he was afraid to do it. So I must do his homework for him-again.Is that what really happened?  Or did I just ask you a simple question about where you got your info on the…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,18:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2010,12:42)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,11:46)Nope! Jesus said, “TODAY you will be with me in paradise.”Really Jack?There is no punctuation in the Greek.  The words say:amen to you I am saying today with me you will be in the paradiseYet you are CONFIDENT it has to be…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 28 2010,18:56)Mike and JA's annihilationist view is exactly what the Sadducees believed. If the spirit does not live on after it leaves the body then it cannot be resurrected. The Sadducees knew this. But JA and Mike are trying to have it both ways. They cannot have it both ways. If the spirit is destroyed after it…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 29 2010,13:49)Hi MB, Are we not able to first agree on definitions??Which word would you like to challenge my definition of?mike

Hi Dennison,First, there are many OT scriptures where Jehovah says he will come and dwell among us.  There is at least one that says His reward will be with Him.  So Jesus has never been the ONLY one who will be coming.But why do you move on?  Are you satisfied that 21:5 and 6 are the Father speaking?  If so, say so, and we'll move forward to 22.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 29 2010,13:42)Hi MB, What does the FORM of God mean? Are angels in the form of God?Was Jesus to you an angel or another god?Are others in the form of God or is he alone in  this way?We are made in God's image but does that mean we too are in the form of God?Hi Nick,When you decide to start answering my questions, I will…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 29 2010,11:13)5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God,    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7but made himself nothing,    taking the form of a servant,    being made in human likeness.Since Mike will not continue I guess I will.All scripture is go…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 29 2010,03:33)Many manuscripts read laid aside his privledges instead of emptied himself.Post one. And along with it, post the definitions of the Greek words.Thanks,mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 29 2010,02:21)Quote (barley @ July 28 2010,14:06)Okay barley Gene and Martian,No, actually you read different words than those that are there.He took upon himself the form of a servant.  It does not say, he took upon himself the form of a man.  As you stated, he was already in the form of a man.God is spirit. John 4…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ July 29 2010,00:13)It has absolutely nothing to do with whether he was fully human or not. You hae no way of knowing from Christ birth is he is fully human or something else. Stop posting the same nonsense.Hey Martian,Why not just try to answer the question?Did YOU have a human father? Did Jesus? Okay, you are different from him…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2010,15:41)Hi MB, The question is HOW IS IT RELEVANT to his ministry and how we follow him?No Nick,The question is how do you explain Phil 2 any other way than what it literally means without reaching, straining, and using the less popular alternate definitions for each critical word?mike

Quote (Ed J @ July 29 2010,12:53)The “HolySpirit” is indeed “The Word”; does this information help you(Irene) to understand now? (Mark 4:12)Hi Ed,It seems to me that Isaiah is talking about Jehovah having bloody clothes from stomping the Edomites to death. That is a big contrast from Jesus looking like a slaughtered bloody lamb, don't you think?Or…[Read more]