Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 02 2010,21:02)headache…. Heacache JALFJDLSKAJFLASKFJASMike and KJ sitting in a tree,D-E-B-A-T-I-N-GAnd why is it YOU come to this site, Dennison?I come to discuss scripture.mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 02 2010,19:34)than the one FROM heaven spoke. This is God of course.The one from the THRONE, which is not specfic from which throne whether its from Gods or the lambs (unless of course its the same throne)6He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2010,12:49)Mike,How could it be proven that He had a perfect nature, and that he had a perfect will which would never deny truth or His God; unless He was tested with all sorts of situations and overcame them as witnessed by many.  His perfectness was put to the test and He passed with flying colors.  This added to the c…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 02 2010,16:07)This is something from the story of Polycarp's martyrdom. It mentions how the Christians worshiped Jesus and clearly were not going to forsake Him by worshiping a martyr. Interesting!Where is that mentioned? It's hard to read……all broke up and such.mike

Btw Jack,Your denial of a plural of majesty in your opening statemant is a direct referrence to the plural word “Elohim”.

Actually, like I told Dennison in a pm, I just wanted to air that info because you and I both KNEW our sub-topic titled “Plural God” was about the word “Elohim' and the Genesis pronouns – not about the trinity in general.  And your  response to my post in Martian's “Elohim” thread proved that.  But now, you won't go near the word “Elohim” with a…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 02 2010,20:41)Mike,I think it means he existed before flesh. That was the topic right? nothing further?Hi Dennison,And I agree. Do you have any supporting words WHY you think what you think? It's okay if you don't.mike

Hi barley,Whoo Hoo!  FINALLY A RESPONSE TO WHAT THIS THREAD IS ACTUALLY ABOUT!   You said:Quote It reminds me of the question, “Are you still beating your wife?”A very simple answer would be, “I have never beaten my wife sir, so your question is invalid.”   You said:Quote 1.  For instance, “If he WAS in human form ”   What is with the word “…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2010,16:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2010,00:02)I agree this is a deep thinker.  He wasn't a robot.  He did have his own free will.  So I guess there was/is always the possibility he would go against God's will.  If he absolutely COULDN'T, then I'm sure Satan would have know that.  And then what would be Satan's poin…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 04 2010,11:03)Mike, thank you for your post ,I hope that in your quest to find the truth of words and meanings of words, I hope you don't become too confused. I'm only learning myself, basics first for me, God bless you though.Hi Shimmer,You are welcome.  I was at a little family get-together this past weekend.  My brother i…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 04 2010,11:06)Mike,This is CS Lewis trying to explain time:Suppose I am writing a novel. I write “Mary laid down her work; next moment came a knock at the door!” For Mary who has to live in the imaginary time of my story there is no interval between putting down the work and hearing the knock. But I, who am Mary's maker, do…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 04 2010,10:43)To me, God EXISTS, and is beyond “time” and its properties. Perpetual or continual is how I see God. “Beginning” is a juncture in time. Jesus is the “beginning” of the creation of God and therefore time “began” with Jesus….as it didn't exist before.The ProfessorHi David,So then you disagree with God, who…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 04 2010,09:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2010,15:31)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 03 2010,02:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2010,04:48)I would like a DIRECT answer to the question of where you think Jesus was before, that he ascended back to.Mike ………….> Jesus was the same place you and I were (in the plan and will of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 04 2010,02:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2010,15:31)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 03 2010,02:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2010,04:48)I would like a DIRECT answer to the question of where you think Jesus was before, that he ascended back to.Mike ………….> Jesus was the same place you and I were (in the plan and…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 04 2010,10:19)The problem with understanding the “true knowledge” goes back to Col 1:15.  If you don't accept Jesus as the firstborn and want to explain away firstborn, you'll try to explain “him” to be someone else (Greek/Jew/circumcised,etc), other than Jesus, who was created by God, and is in all.Hi David,I very much…[Read more]

I agree this is a deep thinker. He wasn't a robot. He did have his own free will. So I guess there was/is always the possibility he would go against God's will. If he absolutely COULDN'T, then I'm sure Satan would have know that. And then what would be Satan's point of testing him?good night ma'ammike

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 03 2010,10:55)Mike,We are brothers because I Begot you of myself. I look out for you as I look out for Karmarie when she was here.Knocking heads with Gene is not healthy nor wholesome – in fact, you are responsible for making him worse by going against him. Why? Because the more you go against him the more he tries to find…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 03 2010,02:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2010,04:48)I would like a DIRECT answer to the question of where you think Jesus was before, that he ascended back to.Mike ………….> Jesus was the same place you and I were (in the plan and will of GOD the FATHER).  Is that direct enough for you brother.Here is a similar…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ Aug. 02 2010,15:09)Jesus Christ was not literally with God in some preexisting state, but since God has foreknowledge, God had all things prepared for JC since the world began.Whew!  I finally got through the arrogant and condescending way you “suppose” to teach me scriptural things…….just to find this little tidbit about the…[Read more]

Thanks David,I strongly believe that God alone is “THE Beginning”, while everything else in existence HAD a beginning. I strongly believe it, because that's what scripture says. mike