Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 05 2010,18:02)But im starting to see that we disagree on everythingYeah, but that's only because I agree with scripture! mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 05 2010,18:26)It seems that your debating with Mike,No, no, no……..by all means, speak out.  This is not a debate thread, and Irene and I are outnumbered.  We need you!   Good logical points, btw.mike

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 05 2010,15:00)Also, Mike, as I have already stated, and Barley also stated, the scripture states: “being in the form of God”, that is present tense, and also, if this is to mean that “he existed in the form of God prior to being born of human flesh”, how is that to be an example to us of humility for me to follow as his…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 06 2010,01:43)Mike………….Have you become a false accuser of the brethren as others also, Show where I have posted something that was not scriptural, because i don't agree with you on your preconceived dogmas does not mean i am posting any mind boggling things. It is mind boggling to you perhaps maybe,  but not to…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Aug. 06 2010,08:44)One more thing –When talking about us making decisions based on the same criteria as Christ so that we could develop the same character as him. Mike compares it to 3 Y/O's imitating monkeys. I told this to a pastor friend and he was aghast that anyone claiming to be Christian could say such a thing. This is so…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 05 2010,19:38)Quote (martian @ Aug. 05 2010,02:27)Actually Mike,I am very pleased that you are still foaming at the mouth here and spewing out your nonsense. You see forums are the dead end and the back end of Christianity. I admit that in the beginning I actually thought I might make an impact on the people on these…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 06 2010,04:37)Good idea!Here is one.Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2010,20:55)Keith,Augustine is a trinitarian and I am not, nor do I pretend to be (like some on here).Kathi is implying that Jack and myself are being dishonest.Can she tell us what the definition of a Trinitarian is? Can she prove that all the Trinitarian…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2010,14:50)3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power.Hi Kathi,I think this one answers it for us,Heb 5:8-10 NIV8Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal…[Read more]

Hey Marty, Can you answer this question DIRECTLY for me?Since you assert that Jesus was already on earth in human form while “being in the form of God”, how is it that he emptied himself and was made in the likeness of a human being?Do you hear what I'm yelling?  He was begotten in the form of a human being after he emptied himself.  How is that p…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 05 2010,14:31)No, Mike, you can try to make this mean that but it cannot possibly mean that because Jesus was concieved of the Holy Ghost.How can this possibly mean that he gave the permission to be Begotten of human flesh?And so, that is my answer to your question.No, no no. Period.Let me get this straight Marty,God, who…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2010,07:09)Can you show me scripture that says the Son was not perfect?Now why would I look for that? Instead, could you show me one that says he was?mike

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 05 2010,08:05)Mike, we have alot in common then, believe me ! !We'll have to share stories sometime.  But just remember this,Matthew 19:26 NIV “…..with God all things are possible.”I'm living proof!   peace and love,mike

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 05 2010,10:15)Mikey does not want Acts 13:33 to mean that Jesus was begotten at His resurrection just as it says because that would shoot down his anti-trinitarian doctrine that Jesus pre-existed His being begotten. And he will twist scriptures and tell half truths and do anything else he can to make new students be…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 05 2010,09:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2010,13:19)KJ and WJ don't want Psalm 2:7 to really mean “begotten” because that would shoot down their trinity doctrine if Jesus had a beginning.  And they will twist scriptures and tell half-truths and do anything else they can to make new students like us be swayed to…[Read more]

Hi Martian,You said this about me in the John 6:62 thread on Aug 4th:I simply saw no point in going on with someone that is obviously dishonest. I choose to not debate with someone from the IMM.For those of you who do not remember IMM is Imitating Monkeys ministry. That is how Mike compares following Christ. I would like you to either show where I…[Read more]

Quote (Arnold @ Aug. 05 2010,10:30)You are about the nastiest member here and I hope you will leave…..Nobody needs your kind……. I don't think that Mike is foaming at the mouth.Hi Irene,I'm glad you “have my back”!     And you are right:  I not “foaming at the mouth”.  I'm not even angry about anything except Martian's bold face lies abo…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ Aug. 05 2010,11:02)Mikeboll64,Your question is again, unsupported by scripture. I will leave it to you to figure out why.barleyHi barley,On the contrary, it is DIRECTLY supported by not only Phil 2, but about 15 other scriptures. So, you can either make another vain attempt at discrediting how I worded my question, so I can again…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 05 2010,02:54)Mike………..Paul was talking about a (existence  of a past event) when Jesus existed on earth before his assent He existed in the (form or nature ) of God because  God was (IN) Him , but he did not try to be equal with Him because he was a man and not a GOD and He Know that even though GOD was (IN) H…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 02 2010,15:30)Hi Mike,Why make assumptions as to what Jesus might have thought or said? (Mark 14:36)Your question is an 'invalid' question as is requires speculation to answer it!Hi Ed,I too can just paste a whole bunch of scriptures. That doesn't help much in our discussion, because you're not saying how you think each…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 02 2010,19:17)The bible does speak of angels and that they are roaming the earth. chlidrens angels? is this biblical?Matthew 18:10″See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.Zech 1:10-1110Right away, the man standing…[Read more]