Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 16 2010,10:11)KangarooJack, We all have day's like that, my problem is I'm on the other side of the world than most people, so I miss out on all the conversations and only catch up later, when everyones gone. I think Mike need's some time out.You know Shimmer, I've have given you the benefit of the doubt so far.  But your…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,10:03)Kathi,Hooey! When you and Mike lose an argument scripturally you hide behind the fathers saying, “See, we're not alone.” That's what it's all about. It's all about you and Mike saving face when you can't win the argument scripturally.Jack, I agree it feels good to have confirmation of what you thought in…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,10:03)Kathi,Hooey! When you and Mike lose an argument scripturally you hide behind the fathers saying, “See, we're not alone.” That's what it's all about. It's all about you and Mike saving face when you can't win the argument scripturally.Jack, I agree it feels good to have confirmation of what you thought in…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 16 2010,10:01)Mike, I havent read everything here today, only briefly because I'm not supposed to be here, I'm supposed to be cleaning the house lol, but if you are getting confused, take some time out, refocus, calm your mind down, pray, I know what it's like.Hi Shimmer,I'm not confused at all. What makes you think…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 16 2010,10:01)Mike, I havent read everything here today, only briefly because I'm not supposed to be here, I'm supposed to be cleaning the house lol, but if you are getting confused, take some time out, refocus, calm your mind down, pray, I know what it's like.Hi Shimmer,I'm not confused at all. What makes you think…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,09:32)Mike,It's not that I am against the early church fathers. It's that you want to hide behind them when you are losing an argument scripturally.I have said many times here and everyone knows where I stand. I don't give a hoot about anything but “What saith the scriptures.”But you and Kathi when you are…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,09:32)Mike,It's not that I am against the early church fathers. It's that you want to hide behind them when you are losing an argument scripturally.I have said many times here and everyone knows where I stand. I don't give a hoot about anything but “What saith the scriptures.”But you and Kathi when you are…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,07:23)Mike,I can tell that you are dancing all over the boards responding to posts.  I don't know where you find the time.  You can just put that thought from my last post on the back burner.  It's cool!btw, I don't think the King of Tyre is satan.  That passage is more of an irony, imo.  Basically the king is full…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,07:23)Mike,I can tell that you are dancing all over the boards responding to posts.  I don't know where you find the time.  You can just put that thought from my last post on the back burner.  It's cool!btw, I don't think the King of Tyre is satan.  That passage is more of an irony, imo.  Basically the king is full…[Read more]

Hi Jack,You said:Quote I unintentionally misquoted you and I apologize. And you misquoted me. I never said that Isaiah 43:10 says, “No god was begotten after Me.” I said that it says, “No god came into beingbefore or after me.” The Greek word is “ginomai” which means “to come into being.”You know, I could have sworn you said these words in a post…[Read more]

Hi Jack,You said:Quote I unintentionally misquoted you and I apologize. And you misquoted me. I never said that Isaiah 43:10 says, “No god was begotten after Me.” I said that it says, “No god came into beingbefore or after me.” The Greek word is “ginomai” which means “to come into being.”You know, I could have sworn you said these words in a post…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 16 2010,08:05)Mike,Sounds like you not very happy right now.Are you working too hard?Chillax, bro. Satan is indeed crouching at your door right now.Beware.I pitch the Satan 'firstborn'… as my mad theory. We all have our mad theories. “For he taketh away the first in order to establish the second”..”And the First shall be…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 16 2010,08:05)Mike,Sounds like you not very happy right now.Are you working too hard?Chillax, bro. Satan is indeed crouching at your door right now.Beware.I pitch the Satan 'firstborn'… as my mad theory. We all have our mad theories. “For he taketh away the first in order to establish the second”..”And the First shall be…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Aug. 16 2010,06:21)It is as simple as this —A completely human Christ produces hope that I can be perfected in like manner as Christ.An augmented Christ (via deity or knowledge from pre-existence) produces doubt as to how much or even if it is possible to become like Christ.Hi Martian,And that's what you've been saying all…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,06:34)Hi Mike,Do you think that when you pour your wisdom into you own son and then him putting that wisdom to use, is a poetical type of birth and then establishment of your wisdom?  Because the wisdom that is within you comes out of you when you pour it into others.  Maybe Prov 8 is more about the wisdom of God w…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,06:34)Hi Mike,Do you think that when you pour your wisdom into you own son and then him putting that wisdom to use, is a poetical type of birth and then establishment of your wisdom?  Because the wisdom that is within you comes out of you when you pour it into others.  Maybe Prov 8 is more about the wisdom of God w…[Read more]

Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 15 2010,03:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2010,13:48)Hi RM,I guess you missed this part,Several later manuscripts repeat “I am the Alpha and Omega” in 1v11 too, but it does not receive support here from most of the oldest manuscripts, including the Alexandrine, Sinaitic, and Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus. It is, therefore, omi…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Aug. 15 2010,07:09)Mike,Are you so insecure that you have to leap to one of the threads I posted to continue this silly debate on John 6:62. You are the one that started this system of debating each individual scripture on a new thread. Why are you dragging it around and hijacking other's threads. Is this kind of behaviour a fruit…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 16 2010,06:02)Mike do you not know you also came from GOD or do you think you only came from you earthly Parents.Hi Gene,Please keep the sermons to yourself.  I have heard enough of what you believe and why you WANT it to mean this and that.  I don't agree with you that we should form the scriptures around our “…[Read more]

Btw Roo,You didn't seem to respond to the fact the the early church “fathers” also think that Wisdom in Proverbs 8 refers to Jesus.Why are you always against the early church “fathers”?Why is it that I, while drawing my own conclusions from scripture, always later find out that it is the same conclusion the early church “fathers” came…[Read more]