Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 01 2010,05:35)v26:God (Elohim) SAID = who is speaking? Elohim, not YHWH or Spirit.Let US = how many “people”? Minimum two.make Man in our image AND our likeness = God's purpose in creating ManHi David, I don't know how you came to the conclusions you have from any scripture.First, “Elohim”, “YHVH”, and “the holy spirit” are…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 01 2010,05:21)hi mike1Ti 2:13 For Adam was formed first, then EvePierreYes Pierre,Just like Genesis says.  I KNOW that Adam came first…………are you not understanding me?  I keep trying to explain that I understand it the same way as you do, and that I listed the 1:27 verse ONLY to show you the verse that DAVID o…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 31 2010,12:49)Ok great lets talk about that in our debate =)Ok, I finally posted.mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 31 2010,14:27)and in conclusion,I never said they were not allowed, you put that in my mouth.neither have i said that angels could never see the face of God.You assumed i meant that.What i simply said that they hide (cover) their faces in front of the throne where the presence of God is.Dennison, this is what you…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 31 2010,14:55)if this account of Adam and Eve creation is true ,the conclusion is that God created them both but not the same way, and Adam first out of the ground and Eve out of Adam rib, so Eve is made to the likeness of Adam NOT GOD.Hi Pierre,I know the story, and I believe it.  I have recently found out that the “rib”…[Read more]

Kathi, sometimes your brilliance overwhelms me! Great post and rebuttal.mike

Hello Mr. Forgiven,The next debate I do will be a Q and A debate.  Ask one question, and the other person can use as much info as he wants to explain his answer………BUT HE MUST ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION.  And then he asks one of his own, and so on and so on.You said:Quote Claim: There is a New Speaker, and that Speaker is the Angel out of t…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 18 2010,11:17)Hi Mike,Jesus doesn't call the Holy Spirit “Father” but the Holy Spirit is feminine. He said he would send us the Comforter, Counselor, Helper and She would dwell in us.The Holy Spirit has as one of her traits, YHWH's Spirit. Thus when you receive the Holy Spirit you receive YHWH.Hi David,Read what I just…[Read more]

Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 12 2010,14:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2010,14:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 12 2010,08:47)Quote (Arnold @ Aug. 11 2010,15:50)One more thing, if the Holy Spirit is a person then He will be the Father of Jeus, and that is not so, because the Holy Spirit is the essence of God the Father…His Holy SpiritSo if the Holy…[Read more]

Bump for WJHi WJ,You said:Quote MikeI haven’t had as much time lately and respond to what I feel to respond to.To be honest we are sick of going in circles with you. You insist that you are right and keep on making what you call unambiguous claims, for instance your total denial that the word “begotten” or “Gennao” the equivalent of Yalad has o…[Read more]

Whoa there Professor!  Were those pot shots at us?   Tell me what you KNOW about the holy spirit.  The word also means “breath”, so is every breath a MAN takes in HIS whole life a “FEMININE” breath?  Come on, now…….don't we have bigger fish to fry with these non-preexisters and trinitarians here?   I never said the holy spirit was an inan…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 31 2010,12:46)Isaiah's Commission 1 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of his robe filled the temple. 2 Above him were seraphs, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were…[Read more]

One more:  Colossians 1:15 says,NASB He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.The Greek word “pas”, which is translated as “all” is in the genetive form.  That form in the Greek indicates that in English, we must add the word “of” in front of it.But more and more translations are opting for the word “over” instead, j…[Read more]

Hi t8,Great thread!  While the first two you mention are no longer included in most newer versions of the Bible (which is a strong statement in and of itself), the third, Matt 28:19 still is.  It will be interesting to see what happens as older and older mss are unearthed……..were those words there in the 1st and 2nd century Greek mss?  I'll be…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2010,16:31)hi Mikeit says that ADAM was created to the image of God not Eve ,Eve was taken out of Adam ,fallowing this logic so to speak God must be masculine, an spirit masculine?Hi Pierre,You are correct, but it also says,Genesis 1:27 NIVSo God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 30 2010,19:03)Mike,About time you returned,Wow so are you accepting that Jesus is the first and the last?because what you just stated, you have never mentioned within our debate.werent these your claims?Mike said:”Jesus isn't called the Alpha and Omega ever.””I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT AGREE THAT JESUS IS REFERRED TO AS THE…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 30 2010,16:40)Hey Gene,Did you ever figure out how the last part of 16, which says, “all things were created by him, and for him”, could really mean “for him and for him”?  This is the whole reason I posted this Colossians passage before a couple of others that I really wanted to post first.  I want you to see that t…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 31 2010,00:21)Mike,You make some good points..stressing over trivialness.Hi JA,Who's stressing?  Surely not I.   You asked:Quote Was Jesus at his Father's righthand before he became man and was raised again?I would say yes.  We know he was raised back to his previous glory and position, right?  And since he is now at the…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Aug. 31 2010,01:13)STEO RIGHT UP EVERYONE. COME SEE THE SOID SHOW OF MIKE. HE'S MORE FUN THEN A BARREL FULL OF MONKEYS.   LOLI see you're bored with John 8:38, Martian. Are you ready for another one?It's coming. But first, why don't you come see me in the Col 1:15-16 thread. We have to iron out whether the last part of 16 says…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 31 2010,01:50)Mike when they cannot answer a simple question , then they take up with trying to belittle you, have you noticed that?  Gene has no clue what He is talking about.  All is INTERLECT TO HIM… A bunch of nonsense….. You can't make them understand, when you blind you just can't see……I wonder who the monkeys a…[Read more]