Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 31 2010,23:13)Mike, No, according to Gene, Marty, Barley and all they are right, According to Hermas, which used to be considered cannonThe parable of the FieldThe son of God is the Holy Spirit, the son was made to dwell in human flesh, the man Jesus, then Jesus became co-heir with the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 01 2010,01:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2010,11:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 30 2010,16:40)Hey Gene,Did you ever figure out how the last part of 16, which says, “all things were created by him, and for him”, could really mean “for him and for him”?  This is the whole reason I posted this Colossians passage before a…[Read more]

It doesn't matter how you explain it again……it doesn't fit.  How about we use King David and one of his soldiers?  Let's use Uzziah, the one who's wife he stole.Uzziah, under the command of King David defeated the enemy.  Who claims the victory over the enemy nation………..the single soldier who was doing his part as commanded by the ki…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 01 2010,08:54)Please note that 'Throne' in Heaven is not a physical object.It is 'the Source of Power and Authority'. Therefore, 'thrones' is not an anomoly. It means 'powers and authorities'…'the emination of such from those vested with it from The Source'.If this helps.Hi JAudge,While I agree that it represents…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 01 2010,06:21)Rev 1:8 (KJV)I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.Why is it that in the KJV the word GOD is not presented but ONLY LORD?Are you seeing some indiscrepencies in the KJV now Dennison?It's in the Greek, right?mike

Hi Dennison,You said:Quote Your next debate is going to be a Q and A. it shuold be structured at least, so that it can go smooth.  and limited so that its not forever. Let's try it out right now, because I'm having a hard time even wading through the stuff you posted.You said:Quote Concering JesusJesus is the one Revealing who God is not only in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 01 2010,14:43)Actually Mike, I believe ALL translators that capitalize the G regularly for the Father God, also capitalize the G in John 1:18 when translating monogenes theos, except the NWT.And what does that tell you Kathi?  Why do you think the trinitarians hate the JW's so much?  They had the audacity to translate the s…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 01 2010,14:16)He seperates them in Distinction but of coures believes all of them to be the Same God. Just like he said not two people but two essence of the same person. Thats from what i read from him saying. again i think you guys are misunderstanding what he is sayingThis is what was said Dennison:Quote God…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 01 2010,14:10)Mike,Scripture clearly says that Jesus is the only begotten God and in another place that He is our one Lord. You worship God, the Father and I worship God, the Father too, it's just that I believe that to worship the Father would also include the worship of His Son.No Kathi,Scripture clearly says he is the…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 01 2010,01:15)Mike had his 15 minutes of fame with “pre-existence”, now is the time for yours.Hi David,What?!?  I not famous anymore?     Actually, I have no clue whatsoever what you meant by that statement. You said:Quote what or how does the Holy Spirit come into play into your theology?Imagine your spirit taking off to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2010,10:39)Hi Mike,Hebrew doesn't have any neutral gender words; thank God!I was waiting to see if anyone would be swayed by David,glad to see you have reasoned it out correctly!Here are the associated Bible verses…Rom.8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 01 2010,13:25)This is what I believe:There is one True unbegotten God…the Father and one true begotten God…the Son.Yet Jesus says the Father is the “ONLY true God”.  And Paul says “we have but ONE God, THE FATHER…”.When will you people start just following what scripture says?Why do you all feel the need to put Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 01 2010,11:14)Mike ……….While i am at it here,  why didn't any of you answer martian's very good presentation on why would God do it that way and what or how does believing Jesus preexisted benefit anyone in there walk with GOD and Him. Not so much as One answer from any of you ,Gene,Do you see the part of your…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 01 2010,11:05)Why don't you just go on and say Jesus is a GOD like the rest of the Trinitarians and preexistences do, why stand in middle ground Mike.Gene,In this case, the “middle ground” is the scriptural ground.  On one side of me, there's people claiming Jesus is God Almighty Himself, which isn't scriptural.On the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 01 2010,11:05)Then when you are cornered by saying everything was created (BY) Jesus you again change scripture to say through Jesus, So is it (through, by, or for) or all three word work, take you pick right.Gene,In the last part of Col 1:16, it says TWO words.  They can't both be translated as “for”, can they?  So O…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 01 2010,11:05)MIke…………False Post, I use scripture that shows (CLEARLY) GOD (ALONE AND BY HIMSELF CREATED EVERYTHING> Which yopu or no one else seems to be able to contradict or prove wrong, You use scripture that contradicts this . Then you proceed to say i did not answer the questions.Hi Gene,Enough of the…[Read more]

Well hello there Mr. Worshipping Someone OTHER THAN The Only True God Whom We Are Required By Scripture To Worship ONLY,WJ:Quote Because, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the One True God and satan is a false god.False and unscriptural.  Jesus said THE FATHER was that “only true God”, not a combo of three.  And Paul said we have “but one God, T…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 01 2010,06:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2010,09:48)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 31 2010,14:27)and in conclusion,I never said they were not allowed, you put that in my mouth.neither have i said that angels could never see the face of God.You assumed i meant that.What i simply said that they hide (cover) their faces in…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 01 2010,05:35)The point being missed is that Elohim consists of Male and Female…and that there are two essences actively engaged as seen in the command, “Let US make Man in our image”….and He did.No! No! No!Scripture NEVER implies that Jehovah consists of both male and female………EVER!The “Let US” is Jehovah talking…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 01 2010,05:35)v27and Elohim did make Man in His image = male and femaleDavid,Elohim/God/Jehovah/Creator created the MAN, ADAM first. He then created Eve.Verse 27 does NOT say he made THE man, Adam both male and female. It says that He made MANKIND in general male and female.mike