Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 09 2010,02:26)What would be the pronoun for someone that says, “Let US make man in OUR image”? Since US and OUR are plural the pronoun shouldn't be “He” now should it? Wouldn't it be “They”?Let's say you overheard a conversation I was having, but you were in a different room. You heard me say, “Let US go out and drive…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 09 2010,00:14)So to make sure that neither one of the essences is omitted I use “They” and “Their”. If I used only He and His I would be equally amiss in the application of information, no?Don't you get it David? There are no male and female “essences” of God. He is called “HE” in all of the scriptures David. The…[Read more]

Hey Gene!  barley!  Martian!  Shimmer!  Marty!  Where are all of you guys?  Isn't someone going to attempt to answer this point?  Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 07 2010,15:42)Simply when He raised Lazarus from the dead He could have allowed People to think He did it, instead of GOD the Father.Okay Gene,Let's say the raising of Lazarus IS the point…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 09 2010,12:00)EDJ………..So Now we have a Jesus who is 50% man and 50% God Right. Funny Jesus said “FOR THOU ARE THE (ONLY) TRUE GOD. He did not say he was a Half GOD anywhere that i know of. Jesus was 100% Human and was (NOT) a Son of GOD no more then we are, Until he recieved the Holy Spirit at the Jordan river.…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 09 2010,11:34)Mike……….Here is something to think about.Col 1:15….> He (Jesus is the (IMAGE) of God 1:16….> For By Him (GOD) were all things created. Yes and BY GOD, Jesus was (CREATED) into HIS (IMAGE) 1:17….> And Jesus is before all things (put there by God) 1:18….> and he Jesus is the first…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 09 2010,11:20)MIke……….. Paul was not talking out of the blue as you assume he was, The reason God said “thy throne O God is an everlasting throne” is because it is (GOD'S SEVEN SPIRITS) that are on the head of Lamb WITH POWER,  Shown in Revelations, that is the builder of that throne. Like Jesus said the Father…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 09 2010,04:19)Mike,I am trying to consolidate opinions in one place, so if you don't mind I'd like to address my foundation in one thread and I would like to discuss them with you one point at a time, ok? When you have time you can post your findings, and if you agree or disagree please show the scripture.#1 Elohim is the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 09 2010,04:09)GOD consist of (SEVEN SPIRITS) these are the eyes of God and They are what he uses to counsel his own will and He empowers them to create all things that are created, that is the “LET US” mentioned in Genesis.Hi Gene,1. So is the Holy Spirit one OF the seven, or is it seven PLUS the Holy Spririt?2. Are…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2010,04:32)They have done the same butchery with Col.1:16-7,they 'falsely' attribute these verses to Jesus as well!Hi Ed,Col 1:15 is definitely about Jesus, right? And 16 and 17 are about “someone”, then verse 18 starts off with the word “AND”……and 18 is also definitely about Jesus, right?1:15 He is the image of…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2010,16:32)1) Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son, Thy throne O God is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. (Rev.3:21)Hi Ed,What does that mean then? “But to the Son…..(and then Paul just out of the blue starts talking about God?)But to the Son WHAT? What is “unto the Son”?Do you see it is…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 09 2010,09:29)Mike,That is soooo second grade! Are you saying you don't know the answer, Kathi?

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2010,07:31)hi mikethe deceit way of people to try to confuse others,it is the way the math is made ;the truth is that they have given 30 .00  and at to pay 25.00 so the balance to be returned would be 5.00 but the bellboy kept 2 and only give 3what add up to 5 the count is correct if we add the 25 =30PierreHi…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 08 2010,21:45)Also, “Does God procreate” ? Well, scripture doesnt say, does it ?Hi Shimmer,Scripture says God begot a Son. That is the same as saying God procreated a Son.mike

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 08 2010,15:15)MIKE,That which has the nature of a giraffe is a giraffe, no?And if God said we could eat the flesh of only one particular giraffe, then would it be okay to eat the flesh of that giraffe's son, just because it had the “nature” of that one particular giraffe?mike

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 08 2010,15:15)MIKE,That which has the nature of a giraffe is a giraffe, no?And he who is OF creation is created, no?Worship the Creator, not the creation.mike

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2010,15:29)Hebrews 1:8-10 But unto the Son, Thy throne, O God(YHVH), is for ever and ever:Hi Ed,It says, “But about the Son He says, 'Your throne O God…..'”The “God” here is NOT YHVH, but the Son. That's what the words say Ed.mike

Hi barley,I see NOTHING figurative anywhere in John 17:2-6.  Jesus says exactly what he means.  If you want, we can discuss why YOU would think any of those verses are figurative.  Is that what it will take for you to just answer the question of why you think 17:5 must be figurative?  Because I see this as nothing more than a “I can't really int…[Read more]

Hi Dennison,You asked:Quote Did you understand my example? Yes, if you didnt let me know what confused you? And im sorry if i wasnt any more clear, or if my grammer sucked, or anything along those lines. I understand what you THINK…..but I don't agree with your outcome that Jesus is “God revealed”.You often make claims to support your thoughts…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 07 2010,15:22)Mike i find something here i did not understand could you tell me the exact verse in revelation were it is God that you guys talk about, in chap;21We agree that 21:6 is God saying He is the Alpha and Omega, not Jesus.

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 08 2010,15:06)Mike,those without the nature of God/THOSE WITH THE NATURE OF GODNow if you could only find a scripture that says to worship and serve “those with the nature of God only”.