Keith,Can you blame me for being excited?  You have your “stock” answers and scriptures down pat.  You have had years of practice twisting all the scriptures that cleary say that Jesus is someone other than God.  So when I brought up Micah to discuss the Hebrew word “yowm” being used figuratively, I had no idea it would lead to you accepting th…[Read more]

Keith:Quote No Mike, you are wanting to change the subject to verse 4, what happened to “one point at a time”? You are creating the diversion by making sarcastic remarks and ad hominems about my God wanting to direct the conversation to another passage and something off topic of this thread.Even now I regret that I am drawn in once again with you…[Read more]

Hey D,I say “NO”. mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 30 2010,13:50)All Who have (ARE) EXISTING  With the NATURE of GOD (IN) them and They are Sons of GOD NOW. I could say the same about Paul or John or Peter or any Saint they all were and are existing with the Nature of GOD. How doe that supposed to separate Jesus from Us.Hi Gene,Could you have said that Paul or John or…[Read more]

Hi Ed,45 years young. How about you?mike

Hi Kathi,It's the last post on page 14. mike

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 30 2010,17:06)Hi Mike,If you add things up correctly, Jesus was always his name as you surmised; Mike!Hi Ed,I have no scriptural reason to think Jesus WASN'T always his name. And 1 John 4:3 seems to say it was.mike

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2010,15:27)Mike i only know one previous experience in scriptures that is HENOCH who was remove by God so he would not see the wickedness ,in this view ,i would say that a person is not conscious of his own death,Just like in the case of Stephen,he was looking up and reveal what he saw but unaware of what happen to him…[Read more]

By the way, Keith tells me that Jack is taking a LONG break from HN. Would you post my conclusion to the plural God debate and open it up to the public? It's a great topic to shoot down you “oneness” freaks! (You know I'm just kidding and I love you, right?)mike

D:Quote Mike, so are you saying now that you agree with me, or just being conceited and trying to be right about everything?Well, let's see…….you said:Quote Mike,It does not say that you must have “knowledge” of both of them. Was I scripturally correct or not?  The problem is that it seems your ultimate goal is to know Jesus and get to where…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 30 2010,19:01)but are we going to talk more abotu this thread or what i believe, if so might as well talk about that in our debate.To tell the truth……I'm bored with our debate. I didn't know if you thought Jesus came FROM his Father, but just wasn't “created”, or if you thought he had no beginning at all.Now I know…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 30 2010,18:57)lets say this symbol means ” ~~~” Wind, and though we can never see Wind, this symbol “~~~” is WIND.  The Symbol is the image of the invisible wind. Jesus is the Image of the Invisible God.  Same thingThank you D-linquent! You have just proved MY point.Your three little squiggly lines on the computer s…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 01 2010,09:06)Such unscriotural postings can do nothing except dissuade Godly posters who get frustrated by seeing their good posts denigraded and trashed by a stronger, wilder, deceitful, or mislead poster.Hi JA,When I was younger – growing up – my older brother would always try to make me feel stupid, wrong or inadequate.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 01 2010,03:19)My actual quote was…“I just realized that the verse is prophetic of the coming Messiah and it relates to his ancestry or his being of the seed of David. He is the root and the offspring of David and this verse speaks of his ancestry as David’s offspring.Keith, I don't even want to hear about it.  The…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 01 2010,09:06)WJ,Ok, i see your point and acknowledge that it certainly appears that Mike has overstepped the mark in his remark.Mike has been getting an inordinate amount of 'bad press' lately for wayward postings. He is struggling against a growing malaise in this forum brought about by desparate unscriptural postings…[Read more]

Hi Pierre,In my humble opinion, it means that some will not go to Hades at all. They will go right from life on earth to life in heaven.I contrast the “some here will NOT TASTE DEATH” with Paul saying that Jesus DID TASTE DEATH for everyone. (Luke 9:27, Heb 2:9)We know Jesus completely died, but he was saying that after he defeated death, some…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2010,14:11)Mikeno i will not ,the reason why i posted that ,most of your opponents have those programs and so have a advantage on youYou WON'T buy if for me?   Bummer, man.  They have many “advantages” over me.  But I'm “scrappy” and am not afraid to do a little research.  Their best laid plans are toppled by the wor…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 30 2010,13:37)The Son is not given the title of 'Creator' or 'Co-creator' but He is given the credit, so with or without the title mentioned, He is said to have created all things.Jesus is NEVER given the credit of creation.  The closest the scriptures ever come to saying anything close to that is MAYBE in Hebrews 1, where…[Read more]

Hebrews 1:2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.What part of that don't you get Gene? mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 30 2010,13:18)MIke………..No where does it say Jesus who already was a Human being was made into a human being,That's what I've been trying to tell you for a long time now Gene.It DOESN'T say that anywhere. What it DOES say is that Jesus was in the form of God (as a NON-human being) and THEN was made into a human…[Read more]