Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2010,14:26)There is a difference in being “one by unity” and being “one in ontology”.Jesus is the Only Monogenes Son.Hi Keith,So your answer is, “If it says Jesus is 'one with God', it means he is the same being as God, but if it says 'we can be one with God', it only means 'one in unity'?  And where is your…[Read more]

Keith:Quote You have made a very good point that is totally irrefutable,Thank you.  I believe I have done the same with Micah 5:4.  Will you discuss it, or just keep saying I'm a “rabbit hole” or whatever?Keith:Quote If you say the “likeness of a human being” is man, then why do you say the “form of God” is not God? I've answered this in one of t…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 04 2010,08:14)Mike,I have posted my opinion on 'pro'created. That is why I asked for the definition.I asked a question and you trying to dodge. I will bite and hang on.Why are you avoidung an answer, Mike.What are you talking about? I just posted the definition of “procreate” for the third time in the “Does God Procreate?”…[Read more]

SF:Quote wE wEre SuPose to GeT inTo oMniPreseNCE,EXACTLY D!  What do the scriptures say about that?  Your “quasi-metaphysical” mind wants to say God is “omnipresent”, yet I've showed you scriptures that say angels go throughout the earth gathering info to deliver to him.  We have Him asking Satan where he has been in the Book of Job – why di…[Read more]

SF:Quote The Symbol “~~~” or in your cave man language “squiggly lines” Means the Wind,It Represents the Wind, it is Defined as the Wind, it is the Wind.When we think about Wind, we see the symbol. When we talk draw or even write about the Wind we use the Symbol.But is it the actual “wind” itself…..or a symbol representing the actual wind…[Read more]

Kathi:Quote If I built a house THROUGH a particular contractor then we both get credit for building the house.  I may have drawn up the design of the floor plan, forked out the money, chosen all the finishes, hired the contractor BUT the contractor certainly GETS CREDIT for the actual building of the house.  Why do you not want to give the Son A…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 04 2010,12:05)So we dont have to make anymore debate threads lets just continue to use this one to settle any future debates.I concur.See ya in “created”.mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2010,05:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2010,12:53)There are many lines of logical thinking about the “one flesh” thing Keith.  Would you like to delve into it or not?Mike I am not having any more “debates” with you. IMO you are not an honest man in debates.I may have some discussion with you as I am led but I…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2010,05:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2010,12:46)You can't BE “THE GOD”, and at the same time be WITH “THE GOD” Keith.Why not? You can be with your wife and still be one flesh, right? They share the same Spirit and nature and they are “One God”.WJHi Keith,Kathi and Pierre both answered this well enough, and my…[Read more]

Hi Dennison and Kathi,I'll get to your posts probably tomorrow. I've been babysitting a two year old all weekend………enough said? peace and love,mike

Why JA?What is it about you that makes you come after people like this?  Are you a Christian?  Go post insults and accusations about someone else for a while…..I need a break from you.This forum is for discussing scripture JA.  Either take a scriptural stand and scripturally defend it or pipe down.You don't ever seem to actually get involved in…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2010,04:34)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2010,12:23)Jesus cannot possibly be a part OF “Elohim” if he is someone other than “Elohim”, right?MikeAre you part of your wife? The scriptures says you are “One flesh”. Paul says this is a mystery, but it is a fact and not a myth. Now tell us how it is not possible for…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 04 2010,04:30)Mike Yes we are not Madalist but believe there are three persons that exist as “One True God”. Many of the Fathers believed this and it is found in the whole of scriptures. Starting with Matt 28:19 and John 1:1.All of your questions has been addressed on this sight over and over again.WJKeith,Matt 28:19…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 04 2010,04:11)Mike  and JAso what it gone 'n be ?? pro-creation or creation of the WORD (Jesus)PierreHi Pierre,I will go with what scripture says.  Jesus was said to be:1.  “Brought forth” as the first of God's works2.  “Begotten” by his God3.  The “firstborn” of his God4.  The “beginning of the creation” of his God5.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 03 2010,07:32)But a short answer is verse 4 does not prove that Jesus is not God.Hi Keith,But it says this shepherd will rule in the power and majesty of his “Elohim”.Jesus cannot possibly be a part OF “Elohim” if he is someone other than “Elohim”, right?And your “rationalization” that Jesus calls his God “God” only…[Read more]

JA:Quote Mike,It was without doubt where the direction was in your story.Good……glad you got the point.JA:Quote You perhaps underestimate me. Perhaps even fear me because i represent that 'older brother'.I underestimated the lengths to which you will go to belittle another poster.  And maybe you missed the point that while I was a little kid,…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 03 2010,21:44)We also defined 'Create' and 'ProCreate'. Did the definition change anyones mind and thoughts or give clarity to the thread question?Hi All,The thread isn't even about the difference between “create” and “procreate”.  It started as a poll about whether or not God Procreates.  So once more from D…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 03 2010,08:32)Ok, back to 'unscriptural'. Mike, the whole of the forum speaks of your unscriptural posting. Or at least, you cannot post 'scripturally enough' to lock your point home.JA,You prove your own statement about me to be a lie in your own words.  Which is it……that I post “unscriptural” things, or that I don't…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 01 2010,14:26)You are using two completely different concepts and giving them the same word 'create.' In the beginning God created man from the dust, not from 'His loins.' And that was the beginning of the creatures.Hi Kathi,So the angels are not spirit “creatures”?I'll respond to your post later. I gotta go somewhere. pe…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 02 2010,04:13)But combine the two quotes and the response is …uh, duh…what!!I'm sorry JA…….which exact sentence led you to believe I thought Jesus was God? mike