Hi Keith,I said:Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2010,20:38)This is made clear by the comment about Jesus considering equality with God.You quoted:Quote who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, NKJVWho did Jesus not consider it robbery to be equal with?  Was it the “being of God”, or was he considering equality…[Read more]

Hi Pierre,You say “EVERYONE KNEW THEY WERE DEAD”. But Jesus said Jehovah is NOT a God of the “dead”. Thanks for trying to help……but I'm going to have to wait for spiritual guidance on this one I think.peace and love,mike

Hi D,It's just not a good scripture to prove your belief…..that's all.Because like I said, rocks and stars and such are also a part of the creation of God, but I don't think rocks and stars are “groaning” either. And although Jesus and the angels ARE a part of the creation of the creation of God, they are not included in this verse. Paul is…[Read more]

Hey guys,It wasn't a real riddle.  I was trying to prove that if something already IS a cat, then it can't be made in the likeness of a cat, for it is already IN the likeness of a cat.If Jesus already was a human being in Phil 2:6, then he couldn't possibly be made in the likeness of a human being in Phil 2:7, for he was already IN that likeness…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,You quote 1 Cor 15:49. This says, “We have ONE kind of likeness now, but we will have ANOTHER kind of likeness later.”It does not say that someone who IS a human being will be MADE INTO ONE.Here's a riddle for ya:I once had a cat. But then it was declawed and MADE IN THE LIKENESS OF A CAT.What does that mean? Can it possibly make any…[Read more]

Hi Martian,1.  In between the laughing outbursts, were any of the council members able to figure out how someone who already is a human being can be made in the likeness of a human being?2.  Were any of them able to produce evidence of one single teaching of Jesus they ever followed in their entire life that they couldn't have followed if Jesus p…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 06 2010,18:57)Oh, let me help you get started on how to eat meat, how to chew. Mike it's a little different from drinking milk. If you try to eat meat like you drink milk, you will choke and die…JA,I'm with Keith on the issue of your abusive behavior.  Post it nicely, and I will discourse with you on any subject.But when…[Read more]

I don't know on this one Pierre.  It is still confusing to me.  I don't think the story of Abraham and Lazarus was meant to be taken literally……but who knows?  To me it seems like a parable to teach a lesson, not unlike the many other parables Jesus used as teaching tools.But Matt 22:31 still seems to say that Jesus is proving the re…[Read more]

Well said Pierre. I have many of the same concerns, sorrows…….and HOPE! mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 06 2010,15:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 05 2010,23:06)How about telling me how Keith can be in the form of Keith?Mike Keith is a proper name. God is not a proper name but a Title that describes the metaphysical class of a being.Just like human is a title that describes man.So Adam and Cain are equally human.WJHi…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 06 2010,14:59)No ED, the Hebrew language was a complete language. Israeli Hebrew has 5 vowel phonemes.Is that true Keith? I had heard somewhere long ago that the Hebrew language didn't use vowels at all. mike

Hi Keith,I don't deny the NET, A.T. Robertson, or any other expert “because I think I know more”.  I agree with the scholars WHEN they agree with scripture.  When they move away from scripture to push their own unscriptural doctines, it becomes very clear from what they write.I think the NET scholars are very sharp and knowledgeable, but when t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 05 2010,15:03)Mike to make all scriptures true,this could not be,Ah, but you are the one who told us that when scriptures seem to contradict themselves, it is only our feeble understanding of them that is a fault. And this scripture clearly has Jesus proving the resurrection to the Sadducees by using the fact that Abraham,…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 05 2010,14:48)i now understand were you are;i do not see it that way,you see John talks about real events here,and so it has to be understood that way;Hi Pierre,I'm glad you see what I'm saying. Like I said before, it really isn't that important because is doesn't affect anything we are suppose to be doing for our God and…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 05 2010,15:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 05 2010,14:41)Hey Ed, I'm old!  Can you make your print get BIGGER as you go instead of smaller?         Just kidding.The dominoes went well, although my 11 year old nephew cleaned all the old peoples clocks. peace and love and goodnight,mikeHi Mike,Writing like this could space you out, [Read more]

SF:Quote The Verse we have debated about many times, doesnt suggest “mighty ones” Its God calling another God. Come on D.  How did you come to that conclusion?  When God called human being “gods”, was it “God calling another God”?  I think we need a thread on the Hebrew words “Elohim” and “el”.  They simply meant “a mighty one”.  And there are…[Read more]

SF:Quote So again, IF the LxX did say orgin, would it matter? does it go with the context?  it doesnt say that Jesus was created, and Jesus can not have mulitple orgins.It's not an “if” D.  The LXX says “beginning” plain and clearly.  It says Jesus' BEGINNING was from days of eternity.  And Jesus DID have “multiple origins”.  One from “days of e…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 05 2010,18:16)Back to Micah 5:2About the LXX The greek word you mention suggests the interpretation of Orgins. But look at the hebrew. mowtsa'ah 1) origin, place of going out from 1a) origin 1b) places of going out to or from 1b1) privyAgain, like I said before Mike to suggest that there is a beginning before the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 05 2010,15:56)Mike,Thank you for the discussion so far…it has hurt my brain trying to help you out of the tunnel Part of me wants to address your points here and try to straighten you out again but, as I said it will only lead to more of the same unless the Spirit is allowed to enlighten us. Till then, it is good to…[Read more]

SF:Quote and your last statement, No you neved did ask me “why”, now that i have reviewed the “lost thread” i see that you asked me my thoughts about the scripture, it was in the days of “Peace” “harmony” and “brotherly love”  So Yes you posted the scripture, but No we never discussed it, as like we never had a debate focused on omnipresence…[Read more]