Hi JA,Your logic is flawed.JA:Quote Mike,Why would someone compare bananas with pears and say, 'With which pear did he ever make banana dacaree out of'?No, it's more like Jesus alone is the banana, and Paul said, “To which of the pears did God ever say, 'You will be yellow and have a skin that is easily peeled off.' ?”  The answer is that God…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 12 2010,11:42)Mike Boll,Cats are formed, i.e made, in the likeness of a cat in their mother's womb.  An embryonic cat does not look like what we call a cat but by the time it is born it does. Not so fast there, mister! Can a fully grown cat be made in the likeness of a cat?mike

Hi JA,That's quite a spin you put on it brother! JA:Quote Yet, 'today' he said it to him, to the one who conquered, to the one who overcame, to the one who did the mighty deed, even unto death, having faith beyond hope, that he would be raised again by the father, and was. Was the “today” that Paul said those words the exact “today” that Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 12 2010,02:09)mikeboll64,Do the words “turn the other cheek” and “be slow to anger” mean nothing to you?Are you compelled to blind yourself to words you do not wish to see or hear?I ask because that seems to be what your responses imply.Hi Kerwin,You are right that all this turmoil has gone on long enough.  I did “turn my…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 11 2010,15:57)Good Mike,I thought you already got that thoughNope. I never even noticed the “ever” before today. At least not that I remember. I'm happy about it though.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 11 2010,15:57)We are basically saying the same thing.  Nice!Hi Kathi,Except for the “what was Jesus before” question…….but I already knew that one was coming! We will live to do battle on that another day, my friend.  peace and love and goodnight,mike

Hi Shimmer,I have no problem with or grudge against you.  You did what you did.  I posted my honest feelings about it.  And you responded with yours.  I respect that and think we completely understand where the other is coming from now.  That's a good thing and is called “communication”! Please understand that sites like NETBible show the actu…[Read more]

JA:Quote Why would someone make a decree in secret?What would be the point?A decree is to be SHOUTED OUT so everyone can hear it.You misunderstand the words, I think.  A decree is a judicial law or order that can be whispered, written or just spoken.  A declaration is the shouting and letting everyone know about something.  And the Psalm says th…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 11 2010,09:47)Mike,Certainly when that was said would be on the day He was begotten and as we agree with the majority of early church leaders on this, it was before the ages.Hi Kathi,Just so you don't miss it, I just researched this little tidbit:Heb 1:5 has the word “ever” in it. Here's the scoop as related to JA:pote 1)…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 11 2010,09:28)Mike, if Jesus was 'BEGOTTEN SON' above all his brethren before he did anything to prove himself so, because he was created first and the only one, when were the others created and why was Jesus accorded a better position than they?Hi JA,Everything you said hindges on your one point above.  The answers are…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,I offered you and Shimmer a challenge to show my “bad fruit” concerning Martian.  Put your money where your judgemental mouth is and show where I tried to do anything except lead him back into the discussion and to an understanding of what certain scriptures plainly said.And while you're at it, maybe you could attempt answering my last…[Read more]

Hi Ed,Thank you, thank you, thank you! I agree with every word you posted except the “coddling” part.  I personally think people who want help should not scream, “Hey!  You idiots and miscreants!  Help me or else!”At least I know if I wanted help, I sure wouldn't scream at the ones who had the power and FREE WILL to choose whether to help me or no…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 11 2010,08:49)I see that you try to remain calm most times and what you have to put up with.Hi Shimmer,Well I'm glad you at least noticed that.  I would encourage you and Kerwin to look back through this thread and the early pages of the Phil 2 thread and see the comments that Irene and I have put up with from Martian.  And w…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 11 2010,11:41)There is (ONLY) One WILL that will be done and that is GOD the Fathers WILL.Hi Gene,You spoke correctly here.  God's will alone will ultimately be done.  When He sends out His Word, it never comes back without fulfilling His purpose.That being said, it is God's will that if we follow the rules He laid o…[Read more]

Hi Gene,I really wonder sometimes what Bible you read upon becoming a Christian because some of your ideas are way off base man.  You want Jesus to be exactly like we are regardless of what the scriptures teach, because in your mind it makes it EASIER for you to achieve what Jesus did.And you want to think that God is “influencing your own…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 11 2010,06:00)Mike……….Don't want to go into all the wrong perception you have about GOD or “FREE WILLS”By the way Gene,Coming from you, I'll take that as a sign that I am on the right path about “free wills”. peace and love,mike

Hi Gene,Are you just saying that our lives and the decisions we make are influenced by outside sources? If so, then I agree with you. Every decision any human has ever made has been influenced by outside sources. For example, if it is hot out, that heat influences our choice to go inside where it is cooler.But after weighing the outsides…[Read more]

Greetings Gentlemen,I think it was a “free will”, not an “influenced by God will” that Adam and Eve exercised by eating of the fruit.  I don't think God intended or “influenced” that decision at all.  And I also think the fact that God didn't even know about it until later shoots down the possibility that He is “omnipresent” as Adam claims.God l…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 10 2010,14:57)Mike,Read what I put up for JA on this page.  You will be interested in that too. Hi Kathi,I DID read it and agree with the part that says “I have begotten you” was said in secret. I've told JA before that I believe it to be the first words the newborn Son of God ever heard in his life……..long before God…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 10 2010,15:08)MikeAnd my reply was Keith is a proper name. God is not, but is a title that describes a class of being.Ah, but you gave away that claim by agreeing it was not the “species of god” that Paul referred to, but the PERSONAL, singular being of God.Take this totally fabricated sentence:My sister Joan was…[Read more]