Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 14 2010,06:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 13 2010,05:54)Hey there D-linquent,Let's forget the rocks and stars for a moment.  Do YOU think this scripture refers to the angels and the 4 creatures who worship before Jehovah night and day?mikeHey Old Man,I didnt see your post since it was intermixed with the Nonesense within…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,Does that mean your answer is “No, someone who is already a human being CANNOT be made in the likeness of a human being”? I'm not sure of your answer yet.Please answer my DIRECT question DIRECTLY so we can move on.peace and love,mike

Hi Kerwin,God created US.  And God GAVE us the FREEDOM to exercise our wills as we choose to.The way you word it sounds like me asking if God created the thought I just had in my head.  He created me with a brain that is capable of complex thought, but He doesn't “create” my “thoughts”.Does that make sense?mike

Ahhh……thanks Pierre.It's strange he quotes Jesus as having his OWN will that is separate from God's, but still praying that God's will be done……not his.Gene:Quote You as well as all so-called (FREE) WILLERS want to be in control of your own destinies and you are not now or ever will be.I think if God wants to look into it, He knows every…[Read more]

Hi Pierre,I”ve never heard of “pre-determinism” before. I'm with you on that one brother. We will all be judge for OUR actions and choices, not for whether or not God “infuenced us enough”.Gene, is this correct? Do you believe you are not responsible for your own choices and actions?mike

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 12 2010,10:10)To say that Christ is “begotten” is itself a difficult concept. Within the realm of creation, the term “begotten” speaks of the origin of one's offspring. The begetting of a son denotes his conception–the point at which he comes into being. Some thus assume that “only begotten” refers to the conception of the…[Read more]

Hi Irene,Great advice.  Maybe someday I will get the chance to practice it.  For right now, I'm enjoying my single life. I think a girlfriend would take time away from my 9 year old son and from studying scriptures, so I'm in no hurry.  mike

I think everyone here is partially correct. Ed put it very well:  “Influence on our will does NOT make it cease to be free to choose!”There are many factors and influences that we bear in mind when deciding something.  So while our wills are under the influence of what God wants from us versus what the world deems acceptable behavior – along w…[Read more]

Really Gene? Read the thread brother.  D is the one who thinks God is a Father/Son duo……..not me.  He said in his last post, “First i agree God alone did create, but since i believe Them to be one and the same, thats easy for me to receive.” So I asked that question for him…..to beat him to the punch.  And then I scripturally showed that the…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin, Very good!   Something that already IS a cat cannot be made in the likeness OF a cat.  Now, before we get into our personal understandings of what message Paul was trying to convey in Phil 2, just one more DIRECT question.Can someone who already IS a human being be made in the likeness of a human being?Will you please give me a DIRECT a…[Read more]

Hey there D-linquent,Let's forget the rocks and stars for a moment. Do YOU think this scripture refers to the angels and the 4 creatures who worship before Jehovah night and day?mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 12 2010,14:56)Jesus was raised with a flesh body Just as we will be also.Hi Gene,Here are some excerpts from 1 Cor 15  NIV35But someone may ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 40There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one…[Read more]

Thanks Kathi!

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 13 2010,02:21)He said to tell you that He agrees with you, that I am a tough old bird. We are going to be married 50 years in January…..Hi Irene,Thanks for the post and the forgiveness. 50 years?!? Wow! What a milestone! What a testament to the love you and Georg must share for each other. You folks must have took…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2010,14:35)Mike Boll,Ignore Gene’s definition of free will and look instead at the ideas he expresses.  Do you agree with Gene that Adam acted out of his own will instead of submitting himself to God’s?I believe you do.Absolutely Kerwin.Go on……mike

What? In English, please. Love to you brother D,mike

Hi Irene,I'm sorry……you are so right.  I should have never been swayed by his health issues at all.  In fact, I'm just now remembering that God wanted all to be judged fairly and to not be given any undue consideration just because they were rich……OR BECAUSE THEY WERE POOR.I have failed my responsibility as moderator and others have s…[Read more]

Acts 4:24 NIV24When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. “Sovereign Lord,” they said, “you made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and everything in them.They start their prayer to “GOD” and attribute the creation solely to Him.  But how do we know they didn't mean the “Father/Son” God?  From the way they f…[Read more]

SF:Quote Since you hit me with like 4 posts.. Im just going to answer all of them in this one. I wish you wouldn't have…..I hate long posts. SF:Quote I mean beginning in general of course is different,“Beginning” is just a word that you guys like to play around with in a failed attempt to prove that Jesus had no beginning.  But Micah 5:2 says…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 12 2010,12:11)Mike Boll,That is not the point Philippians 2:7 makes.Just answer the question, please.mike