Let's cut to the chase here D.  NETBible is an admittedly trinitarian web-site.  If there was ANY viable evidence of “goings forth” actually meaning “activities”, they would not have even mentioned that it could mean “beginning”.  For to do so would deliver an immediate death blow to the trinity by implying that “God #2” had a “beginning”.  T…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,13:24)Colossians 1:16-17 For by were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he(YHVH) is before all things, and by him(YHVH) all things consist.Get the story…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 21 2010,13:02)Those scriptures support Revelations that says the first earth and the first heaven shall pass away.I see it like Dennison does.What else would “pass away” mean?  This is how NETBible translates it in Rev 21:1,Rev 21:1 NET  Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and earth had c…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,12:32)Hi SF,Then don't make Posts with 12 or more points wanting me to address them all.My goal is for the readers of these threads to read my Posts,and most readers will NOT read long Posts!Hi D,I agree totally with Ed on this one. I also want others to read our posts and add their input. It seems that when most see…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 19 2010,15:50)Hi Mike,The first was Jesus, then 120, then 5,000, now millions. (Rom.8:17)So Ed,Was Jesus a real person who was filled with the Holy Spirit, or was the Holy Spirit actually the flesh and blood person of Jesus Christ?peace and love,mike

Dane Cook: “The Atheist”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sOgZGoyUYs

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 20 2010,14:54)A young lady came home from a date, rather sad. She told her mother, “Jeff proposed to me an hour ago.”“Then why are you so sad?” her mother asked.“Because he also told me he was an atheist. Mom, he doesn’t even believe there’s a hell.”Her mother replied, “Marry him anyway. Between the two of us, we’ll show him ho…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,I feel like you are “dancing around” the issue here. Your last post didn't answer my last post.What did the fetus Jesus have that he “emptied himself” of? Who did the fetus Jesus “humble himself” before? Because the emptying/humbling took place before he was “made in the likeness of a human being”.And why those particular words…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 20 2010,09:57)this would make me to start those discussions from scratch.i am getting to old for that.

Hi Gene,Phil 2 NIV 5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God,      did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7but made himself nothing,      taking the form of a servant,      being made in human likeness. 8And being found in appearance as a man,      he humbled himself  …[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2010,19:47)Mike Boll,Jesus had a righteous nature at the moment in his life when he could have committed a sin but through faith resisted the devil.  I do not know when that moment was but I suspicion he was still in his mother’s womb.Hi Kerwin,If Jesus had his “righteous nature” as a fetus, then he could not have been sa…[Read more]

Hi Irene,I notice you sometimes use Blue Letter……..me too.  But I find NETBible is so much easier and better and faster.  You should check it out.  Kathi and Keith use it also.  Here's the address:http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=Luk&chapter=17&verse=21At the top left of the page, you can arrow to any book, chapter and verse in the Bib…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 20 2010,06:23)Mike! I would never let anyone tell me whazt I know for sure, and change my mind. No way Ho sah…..I should have known better Irene. It's just that most translations like to render the bowing down to Jesus as “worship” when in fact it was “doing obeisance”. It is the same Greek word used for both, so…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 18 2010,08:28)Mike,This sorta sounds like you:Acts 18:12-1312 And when Gallio was the deputy of Achaia, the Jews made insurrection with one accord against Paul, and brought him to the judgment seat,13 Saying, This fellow persuadeth men to worship God contrary to the law.KJV What do you think Paul was teaching that made them…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 20 2010,03:56)“Lord just be with my brother and uphold him. Accomplish your will and purpose in his life, uphold  & encorage him. I thank you for his love and patience.”Amen

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 19 2010,15:36)Mike,He is less than God only because He was “of” God and not in any other way.And you know this………how?Kathi:Quote First off, we aren't talking about 'earthly' servants.  You are using this “heaven/earth” contrast quite frequently.  Do you know that the things of God on earth are mere copies of how t…[Read more]

Was not Martha a student of Jesus? Did she not follow him and learn from his teachings about the resurrection?mike

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 19 2010,15:33)Hi Mike,Can not the HolySpirit dwell in more than on person at the same time?Absolutely Ed. But which exact person did the Holy Spirit BECOME flesh AS?mike

Both, but they are two completely different things, wouldn't you agree?mike

Hey Keith,Did you get standed in Florida? We kept the thread almost exactly as you left it………….just for you brother! mike