Please! Let's see if the “exercise” will render any “proof”, okay?1.  If someone had “proskuneo'd” Moses right after God performed a sign through him, would it then be “God-Worship”?  Would you then consider Moses a “part of the fullness of God Himself”?2.  If the word “proskuneo” was used for what the formerly blind man did after receiving si…[Read more]

For Kerwin……..from a post to Gene in “Pre-exist”.  Here are just two of the “mis-interpreted, hard to understand” scriptures you mentioned.  Would you care to “play the game”?  Gene apparently didn't want to.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 28 2010,00:23)Anyone can force a text to draw certain conclusions.  Why do textual words have to be add to…[Read more]

Kerwin:Quote I do agree but it is an advantage that we too can have by the power of God through Jesus our King.But if we didn't have it from the start, or as much of it as was afforded Jesus, then he was never “exactly like us”.  He had advantages over the rest of us, and that seems to be what you guys don't “want” the scriptures to say.  So if y…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 30 2010,14:25)It is simple to understand that a descendant does not exist before their own ancestor, without tome travel. Since that is true Jesus cannot exist before Mary much less David or Abraham.This teaching was also hard for the Pharisees, Kerwin. They could not understand the fact that Jesus was both the Root and the…[Read more]

Tim:Quote Hey Mike: Like I clearly said, I don't follow mans rituals (like Peter) I follow Jesus, the rock of ages. The cornerstone of the temple, the capstone, the stumbling stone for those who are not born of spirit.Hi Tim.  I agree with this and regret even posting that scripture.  Jesus prayed to his Father from whatever bodily position he w…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2010,15:29)I think it would be helpful for you to list all the times that proskuneo is given to Jesus and then see if anything supernatural was done within the context. This should be a very objective exercise as opposed to subjective.So in other words, if the man bowed down before David right after he killed Goliath,…[Read more]

Kathi:Quote How is your list coming, the one where you list the supernatural acts of Jesus just before He was given proskuneo?I gave you one to start with.  The one where he was “worshipped” right in front of the Pharisees and they didn't mind at all. Kathi:Quote Here is a passage for you that speaks about the Messiah being given proskuneo…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 29 2010,17:22)The huge advantage of being born with complete faith and the spirit of righteousness is what qualifies him to be the mediator of the new covenant as he can teach us to do likewise and thus make peace with God.As for Gene’s point the age of accountability of Jews is 12 or about the onset of puberty not 20 or 30.…[Read more]

Kerwin:Quote They are called the synagogue of Satan in Revelations as they have abandoned their first love for the deceptions of the evil one.Chapter and verses please?Kerwin:Quote As for Luke the theory of his ethnic origin is based most firmly on his Greek name and that he comes from the Greek city of Antioch.  He could come from a heavily…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 29 2010,16:42)Hi Gene,So you're saying Jesus may have sinned between 1 and 20, but would not have been held responsible for any such sin; is that about right?So how do you account for the time between 20 and 30?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 29 2010,15:49)Jesus was taught God laws and statues from his youth by his parents and walked faithfully in themHi Gene,And you know this how?

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 29 2010,15:13)Hi Mike,You say: God is the Father of Jesus, yet the “HolySpirit” is said to have impregnated Mary! (Matt.1:18,20)Are you saying God the Father is Jesus foster father, while the “HolySpirit” is Jesus real Father?Does your spirit do things apart from you? Is your spirit somebody other than you?No Ed,God impregnated…[Read more]

Hi Ed,Okay, now I know you think God Himself “was made flesh” in the person of Jesus. And you ignore verse 9 in Acts, in John 1:14 there is only one glory mentioned – not two, “Immanuel” is better translated “God IS with us”, and in John 14:9, Jesus is making a metaphor to verify he only taught what his God told him to……..for “no one has EVER…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 30 2010,10:22)Mike…….., Good so we can assume there exists no such thing as a Flesh word right, So How did the Word become flesh then? It should be understood as the WORD came to Be (IN) the FLESH Man JESUS .   Remember GOD is SPIRIT and can Indwell us as he did Jesus.Yes Gene, we can rewrite the scriptures to suit…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ Oct. 30 2010,04:30)If its make you a better person and strengthens the people around you…then I am all for itThanks. I'll try to remember that simple logic myself.mike

Quote (Baker @ Oct. 30 2010,05:18)Just looking forward to Thanksgiving…..Peace and Love IreneHi Irene,Now that's one we can all get behind! I can't imagine it has pagan roots.peace and love,mike

Well, I guess I don't understand the wording, “The LORD is Himself according to His divinity”.  What does that even mean?Anyway, the word translated as “LORD”, as you know, is Jehovah.  The scripture says that Jesus will rule in the strength of Jehovah, his God. Not his own strength. Kathi, have you forgotten how to just read scripture and take i…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 29 2010,02:59)JA……….right God allowed all the effects of Evil just so we will forget it in the future and never remember it right , Another false teachings of yours . These lesson  learned hear will never be forgotten, if that were the case then that would make God a sadistic beast at best.Hey Gene,I was going to…[Read more]

Thanks Ed. I guess that's something I haven't looked into yet……..the backgrounds of the NT writers. JA would be so proud of me for ignoring available resources! mike

Hi Ed, We moderators see all the “report posts”, and there were many about Martian. I think the ones where he “dared” us to boot him were the last straws, but no one did anything about it because he left……..for a while.Then when he came back with more hate, people reported it and t8 (I assume) blocked him.mike