Hi JA,I agree with your response to Gene.  I was about to post something similar, but thought better about even wasting my time to do so.  Gene, this thread consists of a debate between people who DO believe Jesus pre-existed.  Your comments are better saved for the pre-existent thread, for I don't want this thread to become another pr…[Read more]

JA:Quote NetBible…if, netBible were your God Bible, why do you struggle against JustAskin who uses nothing but the Scriptures.That's not exactly accurate though, is it JA?  You use scriptures AND those of us who use NETBible and other sources.  That's why I suggested you just log on to it yourself instead of asking us questions that we easily a…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 06 2010,08:22)Good posts JA, Mike, dont you find this less confusing than what others all say ?Hi Shimmer,You have applauded JA's last three posts.  Could you tell me exactly what parts are “good”?  Which claim has he made that is so logical and easy to understand that you applaud this quality?  And which scripture will YO…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 05 2010,16:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 05 2010,12:57)I forgot one point JA.Why do you ASSUME the “all things invisible” in Col 1:16 excludes angels in the first place?mikeHi Mike,Why do you ASSUME (it was Jesus that made) the “all things invisible” in Col 1:16 but then exclude YHVH as part of “ALL”?If YHVH does not fall under the…[Read more]

Hi Ed,You didn't make a comment about how I worded it before. You just posted a joke instead of any answer.Go ahead and put your words into my questions. (Someone……..just shoot me now! ) mike

Quote (Baker @ Nov. 05 2010,14:12)The reason why i go through Jesus Christ to worship God is because I know that He is our Mediator, and He is without Sin, while I am not…..I also would not worship Jesus. I already said why…..Peace IreneHi Irene,Kathi apparently ignores the fact that a mediator BETWEEN God and mankind cannot be God. Nor can…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 04 2010,21:29)Hi Tim,Sin is an action, not just merely a thought!Why do ‘you’ believe the exact opposite?Ed J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNot always Ed.Matthew 5:28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.peace and love,mike

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Nov. 04 2010,20:02)Hey Mike: Could you give me a definition of what Holy means?I've never heard of a holy animal. What would that mean?What god are you following? The true God of the new testament, our father as revealed by Jesus who gave us the truth gave us no such instructions.Why would you choose to follow the old way that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 04 2010,17:53)5) You seem to keep rejecting the answers I give you?Give scriptural answers Ed. And it would help if you could read “Spirit OF God” and understand it means “Spirit OF God”, and not “God the Spirit” or whatever.Look, I'll take any point as far as I can with you, but when it starts coming down to the scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 04 2010,17:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 04 2010,14:35)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 01 2010,21:42)THE REAL QUESTION is…”The Son can do nothing of himself”How does this point (↑) in John 5:24 square with this point (↓) in John 15:20 “The Word that I said unto you”Jesus cannot be “The Word” in John 15:20, because that would nullify John…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 04 2010,16:18)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 04 2010,16:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 04 2010,14:29)No Ed, it is NOT “ME”.  It is a “part OF me”.(A)If you were cut into pieces, and people were picking up your various body parts, would the man who found your right leg say, “I found Ed………here HE is!”?  No, he would say, “I found one OF E…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 04 2010,16:02)Hi Mike,I enjoy discoursing with you, brother Mike! (sounds like gollamudi would say; huh?) A) If they were searching the woods looking for the body and someone found a leg sticking out of the mud, he would definitely shout: here HE is!B) No; it means YHVH was with Moshe, but was inside Jesus.C) Would you deny…[Read more]

Bump for KeithKeith:Quote DavidYou have not proven that they were not worshipping the King!The servant therefore “FELL DOWN“, and “WORSHIPPED HIM, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. Matt 18:26Notice the words “FELL DOWN“, and “WORSHIPPED HIM“, (peswn oun o doulov prosekunei)But according to your interpretation it would…[Read more]

Hi All,I can't believe this.  Kathi and Keith are still arguing that the soldiers were “mock worshipping” Jesus.Matthew 27:27-29 NIV27 Then the governor’s soldiers took Jesus into the Praetorium and gathered the whole company of soldiers around him. 28 They stripped him and put a scarlet robe on him, 29 and then twisted together a crown of th…[Read more]

I forgot one point JA.Why do you ASSUME the “all things invisible” in Col 1:16 excludes angels in the first place?The other scriptures where “all” doesn't really mean “ALL” are made clear by other scriptures.  For example, Paul said they had already preached the good news to “all of creation”.  Yet we know where Paul traveled to on his mission a…[Read more]

Okay JA and Ms. Shimmer,Let's address JA's main points one at a time.THEN……….MAYBE…………he will actually address the scriptures that I've asked him about repeatedly.  1.  Please can you explain Genesis 6:1-4.What would you like me to explain JA?  That others besides Jesus are called “sons of God”?  Angels are also called “sons of God…[Read more]

Yes Pierre,But I had to go through this time consuming exercise to get them to the place where they KNEW the truth.  I've backed both Gene and Ed so far against the wall that there is no more place for them to run.  So, they'll still keep on spouting their unscriptural doctrines, but they will do it knowing those doctrines are refuted by many s…[Read more]

Just answer this one scripture Ed. The rest is useless chatter if you can't explain this one scripture.Luke 11:13If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”peace and love,mike

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 01 2010,21:43)1) Does not “The Bible” credit The HolySpirit for the conception?2) Does not “The Bible” call the “HolySpirit” God in Acts 5:4?3) Does not “The Bible” call the result of Mary's conception “The Son of God” in Luke 1:35?If these three points are all true, then why do you say No?1. NO! God impregnated Mary BY MEANS…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 01 2010,21:42)THE REAL QUESTION is…”The Son can do nothing of himself”How does this point (↑) in John 5:24 square with this point (↓) in John 15:20 “The Word that I said unto you”Jesus cannot be “The Word” in John 15:20, because that would nullify John 5:24.In more term then: if “The Word” is not Jesus, then why do you say he…[Read more]