Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 10 2010,08:55)Sorry JA and Mike, this was supposed to be a debate between you both, it was interesting, is why iv said so much.No need to apologize Shimmer.  You are actually answering and asking good questions.  That's how a debate is supposed to go.  And I've got to be honest with you, aside from you and Kathi, everyone I…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 09 2010,20:05)And…your response to Shimmer….everything from the book of John. What did I ask you to do: Read Jihn again and note that he is speaking 'past', after Jesus is risen, thus he alludes to the risen Christ, as the 'Begotten Son', as of, the 'Man who is in Heaven'…Hi JA,Sit back and pay attention to Shimmer…[Read more]

Hi JA,Aren't you a little embarassed?  I would be.  You biggest fan is over here discussing the issues and answering direct questions directly……..with intelligence and style and grace.  And what are YOU doing?  Insulting people, making unsubstantiated claims, and whining.  Wait a minute……….that's what you ALWAYS DO!  Carry on then.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 10 2010,11:55)IF CHRIST IS THE FIRST BORN OF ALL CREATION AND THAT ALL THINGS HAVE BEEN CREATED TROUGH HIM ,WOULD HE BE THE SAME AS THE CREATION THAT COMES AFTER HIM ?/IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT WE THINK BUT HE STILL THE FIRST THAT GOD CREATED AND THIS IS THE NAIL THAT STICKS OUT,HE MUST BE MADE HIGHER THAN WHAT COMES AFTER…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 10 2010,07:04)I agree Jesus was Gods 'only begotten son' born into the world through the Holy Spirit, without an earthly Father.Hi Shimmer,I'm confused. You seem to be alternating between claiming that Jesus became God's only begotten Son when he was born as flesh and when he was raised from the dead.Which do you…[Read more]

Hi Shimmer,Good post and thank you.  Unlike JA, you actually attempted to answer my question.   And the info you posted actually DID answer my question.  I can live with calling the creatures in Revelation Seraphims based on your scriptural information.  But I think it is a big leap to include Jesus within the group of beings that were cre…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2010,14:49)Now God can do anything except evil and so Jesus could have been reincarnated as a human which would be the angel is born in a human body.  In that case it is only the soul which pre-exists. Reincarnation is not a biblical teaching.Hi Kewin,The angels were created through Jesus, so I personally think he is…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 08 2010,21:01)And also, someone mentioned begotten,(YLT)..Psalm 2:7…”I declare concerning a statute: Jehovah said unto me, 'My Son Thou art, I to-day have brought thee forth“Acts 13:33…”.God hath in full completed this to us their children, having raised up Jesus, as also in the second Psalm (above) it hath been written,…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 08 2010,20:28)And Mike, fractal scriptures, my mother has writen and published a few books and in one, half the book is her own observation on how scripture is fractal, probably most of it..I dont know I havent read all of it…. I suppose I should.Ask your mother how many events in scripture were NOT fractal, but one of a…[Read more]

Hi Shimmer,You said:Quote Mike, JustAskin is right these are all that is mentioned in scripture,  God…Angels…Man..Revelation 4:8Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying: “‘Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty,’ who was, and is, and is…[Read more]

Hi JA,Remember this?Quote So JA, one more chance for you here.  It is a SIMPLE Yes or No question, so a simple Yes or No will suffice.  There is no need to add anything else as an “explanation” for this particular question, for it REALLY does only require a Yes or a No.  Ready?11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand ag…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,Is it possible for God to take an angel that he created 1 billion years ago, and have it born again from a female hippopotamus if He wanted to?Go view the pre-existent database thread. We are up to about 35 scriptures now. How can you make them all just “disappear”? mike

Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 08 2010,10:12)So what is Jesus…there are no other spirits mentioned in heaven other than God…and…Angels.I don't remember the four creatures who worship day and night before Jehovah's throne being called “angels”, do you JA?They apparently aren't “messengers”, for they never leave God's throne.I don't know what…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 08 2010,08:43)Don't listen to Mike. He's just desoarartely trying to find someone to support his false claims.It is he who can't staya true course. He says i won't answer his 'one' question but look,,..how many times i've answered, not only his 'one' question but many more…Mike just wants me to say what he wants to hear.…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 08 2010,06:38)Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 08 2010,01:54)Shimmer,Seems like you got two suitors for your spiritual hand…'The choice', as they say, 'is yours'!JA, no. Im just reading here, you know.Don't worry Shimmer, I'm not “courting” you. I just want you to learn the difference between one who is posting scripturally and one…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 08 2010,06:29)Mikeboll64,You are the most ridiculous person i have ever encountered in my whole life.You make Stuart seem sane.Now answer the question. You've been stalling and diverting long enough.mike

Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 08 2010,04:04)Mike,Jesus was not an Angel when those words were written concerning him.What is wrong with you.The scripture says the world will NOT be subject to angels.  Is the world subject to Jesus?  Okay, then he must NOT be an angel.But this is only a diversion, just like your last post to me.  Stop spouting “the wo…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 08 2010,05:18)answer;he was already begotten before he start his ministry,and became superior because of his sacrifice of his live;Hi Pierre,JA thinks there was no mention of Jesus being begotten in the OT, yet he ignores Psalm 2:7.He thinks Jesus was awarded the “title” or “position” of only begotten Son of God when he…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 05 2010,15:49)Hi Mike,Your missing the “point” that I was making to Tim Kraft.He basically says that no matter what he does it is not sin.The point that I was telling Tim, is that wrong actions are SIN!No matter how correct he thinks his new age philosophy thinking is.Hi Ed,I agree. Tim does have some odd views. I can't ima…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 05 2010,15:19)Hi Mike,1) I assume we agree: Jesus did the miracles by (power of) the Finger of God.2) The HolySpirit Is the finger of God, therefor the Power of God; correct?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,1. Yes.2. The Holy Spirit is not the power of God. The Holy Spirit is SOMETIMES, BUT…[Read more]