Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 25 2010,07:09)Do I bring in a mediator to help and provide the evidence?Ed, PLEASE don't instigate.mike

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 25 2010,06:38)Ahhhhhhhhh…… Heaven net is fellin good today!Hey Mark,Do you think it was God who caused you to write “fellin” instead of “feelin”? Yes, the day HN has more trinitarians that those who believe the scriptures is truly the day it will be “fellin down”! mike

SF:Quote For arguement sake IF the Perfect God limited himself to be Just a mere man yet still fully God in the very same time, Would he not follow his own laws?And just for argument's sake, how far would this “God” take this farse?  Would he go as far as praying to HIMSELF?  Would he go as far as asking HIMSELF to take the cup away from H…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 24 2010,21:35)Mikeboll,Like I said, our debate has run it's course. I'll see you at the gate, and there you will see me wraped around Jesus' feet, crying and washing his feet with my tears, if he will let me, saying “be merciful to me please”Hi Mark,What “gate”? Mark, does your God have a God? Mine doesn't.peace and…[Read more]

I'm lost here.Irene said she was glad ONLY people who believed had been posting here.  Ed said, “Not true”.  Ed, what non-preexister had posted here at the time Irene said that?And why would it matter anyway?  She said, “I'm happy”, and it seemed to me like you went out of your way to stomp on that happiness and start a disagreement.  One of us…[Read more]

If one is wood, then it is called "whittling", no?  And we keep whittling away at false doctrines, don't we Pierre?  peace and love,mike

Too funny Marty!       The kids are still laughing.  I hope you all have the chance to enjoy your family and friends this weekend………not to mention the food.  I thank you God that we live in a land of plenty……….and pray that you will let those who don't know you are with them even in their poverty and suffering. It is they who will…[Read more]

Actually t8 and Pierre,I DIDN'T get a direct answer……..now that I think about it.The question was about if it was clear to the Jews what Jesus was saying.I didn't get an answer to that at all.  Kerwin?  Gene?  Adam?  Did the Jews understand Jesus to be saying he CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN?  YES or NO.peace and love,mike

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 25 2010,10:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 24 2010,13:42)Is it abundantly clear from this passage that the Jews to whom Jesus was talking clearly understood him to be saying that he himself CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN?Yes or No guys………and be honest – no diversions okay?Did you get an answer or did you get nothing?Oh I got an answer…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2010,17:36)He is the bread that feeds those who hunger after righteousness and he came down from heaven because he was sent by God for that purpose.  I am not talking a physical location but the spiritual location just as I am speaking of spiritual bread and spiritual hunger.How many Kerwin?How many scriptures will you…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 25 2010,01:27)So seeing i ask you first does the Glory GOD has preplanned for Man (EXIST) in the Presents of GOD or NOT. Try not to change the subject this time.I'm sorry Gene, I wasn't aware of any scripture where someone said, “I HAD GLORY IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD BEFORE THE WORLD WAS CREATED”………except for John…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 24 2010,19:35)This scripture talk about only Messiah's human origins from his forefathers like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who would be of ancient times when compared to future Messiah's arrival on the scene but not any mythical origins like in heaven as you claim here.Hope this will clarify your doubts on Micah 5:2Hi Adam,Why…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 24 2010,13:59)Mike,But is satan an only begotten god?No Kathi, and unlike Jesus, he is not even the FIRSTBORN of all creation. So yes, Jesus is higher than Satan. Jesus is higher than everyone except…………….(you finish the sentence for me – won't you?)mike

No worries Shimmer.  Kathi knows I can take the words she just posted to me and direct them back at her…………Quote If I were to believe you, I would have to go from greater faith to lessor faith.  Why would I do that?  You aren't that smooth of a talker  We just have a friendly banter about this once in a while.  She knows that only scri…[Read more]

Hi Gene and Pierre,I almost posted last night that Pierre wasn't calling Gene an idiot in his post.But then I thought I'd stay out of it.Gene, Pierre never implied that you were an idiot. Re-read his post.mike

Yes. The ONLY begotten god – according to John 1:18.But Satan is also a god Kathi. Should we worship him?mike

Kathi,Sorry, but you have started talking nonsense.  God with “God” is greater than God with “god”?  It's okay to worship a “divine” arm but not a “temporal” arm?   God is God Kathi.  It doesn't matter who or what He is with at any given time.  God is God and we are to worship God.”Why do you call me Lord and not do what I say?” – JesusDo what…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 23 2010,13:47)I don't agree with you on Micah 5:2Hi Adam,Please explain to me what YOU think Micah 5:2 is saying then.Thanks,mike

Okay Gene and Adam and Kerwin.You guys slipped past this one because of the starting of the second pre-existence thread.  Let's forget John 17:5 for a second and see how you answer this “bread” point.John 6:41-42 NIV41 At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” 42 They said, “Is…[Read more]

Hi Pierre,Boy, that is a great one! And Ed, when Irene posted that, it was true. Why are you picking a fight when there is none? mike