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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2010,04:01)Hi Mike,Thanks for answering and for your patience. The point will come. Please continue in your patience.Do you believe that the Son is the one true begotten god and is from the one true not begotten God?Do you believe that the one true begotten god is the ruler of all creation?Yes, Jesus is the begotten…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 25 2010,19:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 23 2010,14:16)And the Jews are still God's chosen people.No. Mike. God desires those who worship him in spirit and truth, THAT is what God want's. Anyone, anywhere, We are in the last day's, Jesus has come and been crucified, we are not in the old anymore. Learn these things, I had too…[Read more]

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    Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 25 2010,21:16)The term rich is not applied in a literal sense ,with respect to monetary wealth….Jesus was rich in virtue,understanding,wisdom and characterHi Ted,Which one of these things did Jesus stop possessing when he became “poor” for us?mike

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    45If then David calls him 'Lord,' how can he be his son?”What did Jesus mean when he said this? Kerwin? Adam? Gene?mike

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 25 2010,18:59)Scripture does not say even when paraphrased “He existed with divine nature, emptied himself, and CAME in human flesh.” Philippians 2:5-11 does say in paraphrase “Your attitude should be like Christ who have a godlike nature did not see himself as being equal to God but instead became a servant of all and so hu…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (barley @ Nov. 25 2010,15:50)You might want to consider that you ignored the word “called”  thus indicating nature, ie, qualifiers, not an indentifier or a title.Hi Adam, So in English, if one is CALLED “mighty god”, does it mean he is THE mighty god, or A mighty god?Is Jesus “wonderful conselor” or A Wonderful Counselor. The reason we…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 25 2010,14:59)Mikeno,answer but this ia why;;Gene and Adam and kerwin are judging the scriptures the same way the pharesees did;”Now that is remarkable! You don’t know where he comes from, yet he opened my eyes.”He is trying to also open their eyes Pierre.  But “the god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 25 2010,14:22)But our brothers Mike and others are facing difficulty in understanding that.Hi Adam,Why didn't you answer to MY response about Micah 5?mike

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 25 2010,18:58)I am going to have to disagree with you about the Jews clearly understanding JesusSo when the Jews said this…………“Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”…………..it is YOUR understanding that they did NOT think he was say…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 25 2010,13:51)Does the only begotten god pray to your God?Does the only begotten god sit at the right hand of God?Is the only begotten god the exact representation of God's nature?Is the only begotten god the image of God?Does the begotten god have a kingdom with God in heaven?Do you offer obeisance to the begotten god?Do…[Read more]

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    SF:Quote I liked how you answered my question with more questions, just wanted to let you know that i noticed =) debate fallacy anyone? How's this for a direct answer?  NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN GOD.  So no, God did not come in a form that everybody was able to SEE. John says no one has EVER seen God……..and he writes this AFTER many people had s…[Read more]

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    Okay Mark,I'm sorry.  I thought you referred to this:13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.And I was jokingly thinking to myself, “But we might not end up at the sa…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 25 2010,05:01)Romans 8:38 says, 'for i am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor ANGELS, nor RULERS…',Hi JA,The word is not in the Greek text. You can look it up on NETNotes and find out why some add it.JA, ALL INVISIBLE THINGS IN HEAVEN were created through Jesus, whether they be rulers, powers or authorities.…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 24 2010,19:27)Mikeboll,Name me one Angel who is a ruler in heaven.That's easy JA.  Michael the archangel.  He is a ruler or “chief” of other angels.Now, why don't you DIRECTLY answer a question of mine for once – and prove you're even worthy of my time and effort?The “arch” in “archangel”, signifying that Michael is a “…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 24 2010,19:27)Mikeboll,Name me one Angel who is a ruler in heaven.The debate question was answered and you were right. Principalities can mean an individual, therefore Animate. So, yes, you won.Therefore that debate is over. Ended. Just as i said.What you did was to limit your debate question so explicitly that it left no…[Read more]

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    You knucklehead! :D She wasn't saying all the pre-existers HAD posted, only that it was ONLY pre-existers who had! :)peace and love to you my friend,mike

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 25 2010,13:17)Mike,So your God begat a Son who is a begotten god, correct?Kathi, didn't we just do this a day ago?Yes……..what's your point?mike

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    You know what?  I did it again.  I've ignored Paul and I am arguing words.Worship Jehovah your God and serve Him only.  That is scripture.  And since you didn't answer my “red challenge flag NFL” post, I'll bring up the point again.Here's where we all are guys.  The following are facts that NONE of you can deny:1.  Scripture ONLY ever says to wo…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 25 2010,12:40)Mike,Does your God have a begotten god?Hi Kathi,No. My God begat a Son who is himself a “mighty one”. Kathi, does your God pray to God? Mine doesn't.mike

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