LU:  Did he not create you?

Of course not.  I was created by Jesus’ God, who, by the way, also created Jesus.  That’s why I am a son of Jesus’ God… but a brother of Jesus.  Get it?  Not a son of Jesus.  I just shared this with Carmel, but maybe it’ll help you too…

1.  Son of God?  YES.
2.  Son of Jesus?  NO.
3.   Conclusion:  Jesus is not God.

Carmel: SO THE HOLY SPIRIT WORKS ALL MY HIMSELF, WITH HIS SPIRITUAL MIND

HE IS THE SERVANT THIS TIME 

HE IS SERVING JESUS CHRIST  John16:12-15
IT IS HIS TASK  THROUGH OUR MOST BLESSED MOTHER MARY TO MAKE YOU ANOTHER JESUS

Sorry, I don’t speak drunkenese.  But are we in agreement now that Jesus is the holy servant of the Sovereign Lord who creat…[Read more]

Carmel:  we are now the sons of God

If we are sons of God, but BROTHERS of Jesus, what does that tell you?

1.  Sons of God?  YES.
2. Sons of Jesus?  NO.
3. Conclusion:  Jesus is not God.

Pretty simple, really.

Carmel: who gave Mike, JESUS, who received Mike, THE FATHER,
who is greater Mike?

Sorry dude… I couldn’t make heads or tails out of that convoluted post.  What did Jesus give to the Father again?

Carmel: SCRIPTURE:

Matthew 15:18 But the things which proceed out of the mouth, (WORDS)

come forth from the heart,
and those things defile a man.

I’m asking for a scripture that says Jesus is the very heart of God – as you’ve claimed.  Even applying your inapplicable scriptures, the best you could claim is that Jesus – as the literal words Go…[Read more]

Carmel: KING THE FATHER, and KING THE SON. 

Really?  So where can I read in scripture about David being addressed as “King the father”, and Solomon being addressed as “King the son”.  Or better yet, where can I read in scripture about Jesus being called “God the son”?  I can’t, can I.  I can, however, read “King David” and “King Solomon”.  I can…[Read more]

LU:  Or, is eternal life knowing the only true God AND Jesus?

Yes… the second one.  Eternal life is knowing the only true God (our and Jesus’ God) AND that God’s servant, priest, sacrificial lamb, prophet, anointed one, mediator, spokesman, angel, first creation, and only begotten Son, Jesus.

Well done, Kathi.  We must know both our God AND Hi…[Read more]

LU:  Jehovah is both God of gods and Lord of lords. Jesus is the Lord of lords part.

Oh, so you ARE still teaching that doctrine!  So that would mean the apostles were praying to the JESUS part of the Godhead in Acts 4, because they prayed to “Sovereign Lord”, right?  So do you suppose they prayed to Jesus through Jesus’ holy servant Jesus?

LU:  Israel was the servant to Israel as a father.

Oh brother. 🙄

Dear Entire Nation of Israel,

I ask that you do not go to war with our people.  I ask in the name of your servants, five individual people who are also members of the very Nation of Israel to whom I am appealing.  😄

Give it up, girl.  The apostles CLEARLY prayed to a certain sin…[Read more]

LU:  I used to think that too but reading the early church father’s writings, they quote it as the “Lamb slain before the foundation of the world” from what I remember so I go by that.

Okay, suit yourself.  I don’t think it’s rocket science to look at both of those scriptures side by side and realize that there were names written in a book of life…[Read more]

LU:  The prayer was to the Sovereign LORD (YHVH) and all three members, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit make up the fullness of the one Sovereign LORD (YHVH).

Remember when you used to claim that Jesus was the “Lord of lords” part of Jehovah, and the Father was the “God of gods” part?  You were pushing a binity Godhead back in those days.  I se…[Read more]

LU:  …the Father chooses to display his power through the Son’s own power who can do anything the Father can do, btw. In other words, if the Father can do it, the Son can do it by the Son’s own strength and ability. The Father and the Son have the same strength and ability because they have the same essence, perfect, eternal esse…

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LU:  I am perfectly aware that Jerusalem is called YHVH our Righteousness after Jesus whose name is YHVH our Righteousness.

I wasn’t aware that Jerusalem was named after Jesus.  Where can I read about that in scripture?

LU: Mike, here is the million dollar question…

Do you NEED JESUS?

Yes.  No one can come to the Father by any other means.  The Father has established it that way.  He didn’t have to establish it that way, as we can learn from Jesus himself…

Matthew 26

39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father,

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LU: You can pray directly to Jesus…He is YHVH our Righteousness. He loves it when we talk to Him! It’s ok.

It’s also apparently okay to pray directly to the city of Jerusalem, who is also YHVH our Righteousness. 😉

Jeremiah 33:16

In those days Judah will be saved, and Jerusalem will dwell securely, and this is the name by which it will be call…

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LU: Shoot me, I don’t care… The apostles prayed to YHVH, the unity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit…

And do all three of those entities comprise ONE SINGULAR “Sovereign Lord” in your doctrine?

LU:  Also, the scripture says the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world. The Lamb is the Son of God.

No they don’t.  That is a poor translation.  From the Trinitarians who produced the NET Bible…

Revelation 13:8  NET Bible
and all those who live on the earth will worship the beast, everyone whose name has not been written since the…[Read more]

LU:  Yes I believe that God’s great power is a person distinct from the Father with a mind and a will of his own. His name is YHVH our Righteousness and there is a city named after Him, Jerusalem…the city of the great King.

No, God’s great power is power that belongs to God.  That power doesn’t have a mind or will of it’s own, because power is no…[Read more]

LU:  Do you think that a member of a unity cannot serve that unity of which they are a member of? A pastor is a member of the body of Christ, a unity called the church. The pastor also serves the body of Christ, the unity of which he is a member of. This is simple.

Simple?  More like “simple-minded”. 😉 Will you really claim that Pastor Fred is t…[Read more]

LU:  Jesus is the holy servant of YHVH, the unity of which He is a member of.

No, Jesus is the holy servant of the “Sovereign Lord” (singular) who created the heavens, the earth, the sea, and everything in them.  I learned that from Jesus’ apostles.

Doesn’t your “binity Godhead unity” thing consist of TWO completely distinct Lords/Gods?  How do…[Read more]