Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 10 2011,05:03)So yes he is a “ruler” because he is god over this age. But he is a false god and not God at all.How do you figure?  Is Satan REAL?  Is Satan a REAL powerful ruler of many?  If theos means “mighty one”, and Satan is a REAL “mighty one”, then how can you say “FALSE god”?  Satan is REAL, so how can he…[Read more]

Hey All,I would like to get everyone's vote on this poll…………….PLEASE?  I'm especially curious if Keith, Jack, SF, or Francis have voted.  If they haven't, I urge them to do so………….again, PLEASE?  thanks,mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 10 2011,04:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2011,20:14)Now if the previous verses explain that “Christ” is NOT “God Himself”MikeWhich God are you talking about? Are you using the word God here to “identify” the Father? I thought you believed the word “God” does not identify God but only means “Ruler or Leader”?By your…[Read more]

Hi Keith,You did not even answer my #1 question.  You circled all around it with nonsense and untruths.  You diverted and asked loaded and slanted questions……..which I ignored last night simply because they are unscriptural.   You did the same thing with all 11 of my questions.  That's why I responded only to your response of question #1 las…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 09 2011,11:51)Ok what scripture are you talking about?John 4:22 NIVYou Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 09 2011,11:51)How can you prove that he is “his own person” when he only did what the Father did?Read the scriptures, D.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 09 2011,08:40)Really? So God shares the Glory of sitting in his Throne with a creature, one who was created (as you believe Jesus is)?  The laugh is on YOU, Keith.  You think Jesus IS God, yet he will share the glory of sitting in HIS throne with creatures, ones who were created.  This is t8's point you're PR…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 09 2011,08:40)1.  Jesus is going to give the Kingdom back to the Father so that he and the Father will share that rule as one and be all in all. 2.  Jesus is currently “all in all” and all is in his hands.Hi Keith,Both of the above statements you made are unscriptural and nonsensical.  If Jesus was now “all in all”,…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 09 2011,04:51)Now I ask you Mike: Was the financial information the wife shared with me EQUALLY hers as well as her husband's? Of course it was. But the one spouse should not disclose personal information without the approval of the other spouse. The wife should not have spoken ON HER OWN!You story isn't something new,…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 09 2011,04:16)But it would take persuasion of the Holy Spirit to confess Jesus as Lord in the sense of supreme rank and authority.It would take the persuasion of some kind of spirit, I'll grant you that!  Watch out for him who masquerades as a spirit of light.  mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 08 2011,16:39)and i talked the same, walked the same, and did everything that Keith would do, and even a thought or a response from myself would be responses that keith would make, would only bring anyone to a common sense conclusion that I am keith.But Jesus is his own person, D.Jesus said that he worships what he…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 08 2011,18:30)so, what WJ/SF/KJ? Do I now tell him that his Father is Jesus the Son? Then what do I tell him happened to the Father? Too complicated WJ/SF/KJ.My thoughts.Those are GOOD, LOGICAL thoughts, Shimmer. And that was the point behind my “Like a child” thread from over a year ago.Any 5 year old kid can understand the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 09 2011,09:11)Tell us t8, If to you satan is the God of this world then who is Jesus the God of?More word games, Keith?What does “God” mean to you in referrence to Satan?  Does 2 Cor 4:4 mean that Satan is the CREATOR of this world………or the RULER of it?If Satan can be called the RULER (ie: god) of this world,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2011,19:09)Todays exercise was brought to you by the letter E and the number 2.

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 09 2011,03:06)Hi Mike and Irene:You say Jesus “emptied himself” prior to becoming a man.  What does that mean?  Emptied himself in what way or of what?Love in Christ,MartyHi Marty,Jesus had the most cushy position of all of God's creations.  He was beside his God and Father all day every day in heaven.  He was there while his…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 09 2011,03:04)Hi Mike:He was on earth as The Christ the Son of the Living God.  Is that not a higher status than any ordinary man?Here is an example:Quote Matthew 9:2And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy;Son, be of good cheer; thy…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Feb. 08 2011,15:48)The series of verses you quoted to support Jesus' preexistence are purely the interpretations of NT writers out of their Christological terminology but they are not supported by any of the scriptures in Hebrew Bible.Hi Adam, You're entitled to your beliefs as much as anyone else, I guess.  I take ALL of the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 08 2011,14:39)Jesus plainly said he could do NOTHING of HIMSELF, even when he was on the earth so where did he some how change his “Nature” and was morphed into a human beingHi Gene,That's what I'm asking YOU! It says he was existing in the form of God, but then emptied himself and was made in the likeness of a human…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 08 2011,04:45)That is simply wrong. “Only” means “Only”. Do you have more than “One Lord”? To you words do not mean anything it appears. You also said…  Keith, wasn't it YOU who posted the scripture about human MASTERS?  Yet it is YOU who then wants to INSIST that “ONLY Master” should be taken literally.  Were th…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Feb. 07 2011,20:10)The problem with Phil 2 is Paul was nowhere near this so called preexistence' divinity of Jesus. Hi Adam,What if we add in a couple other things Paul said about it?Romans 1:3 NIVregarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,Romans 8:3 NIVFor what the law was powerless to do in that it…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 07 2011,16:15)for instance if i were a general of a large army , could i empty myself of the and take on the role of a common solider,Yes Gene,But that only proves MY point. WHEN was Jesus “the General” before he emptied himself to become a common foot soldier?WHEN, Gene?And I'm STILL waiting for an answer to how…[Read more]