Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,10:52)MikeIt was a “type” of Gods literal Throne in heaven in which Jesus now sits in and will forever reign.WJOkay, I can understand your logic at least. So when God says Jesus will sit in the throne of David and rule forever, He is really saying “Throne of God”? And if that's the case, and the throne of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,10:22)MikeListen real close. There is only One “Christos” in scripture.There is only One “Messiah” spoken of in scripture.Unless you can show me a verse that says “Christ” (Christos) is ascribed to any other then you are just blowing in the wind.Again, no, YOU listen real close!This is the definition for the…[Read more]

It's gold, isn't it?

(Brought over from another thread in the hope of focusing this one discussion into one thread)By the way Keith,You didn't answer my #4 question with a “NO”.  Would you please do so, since it is a SCRIPTURAL FACT that Cain was not the same being as Adam?Keith said:Quote Jesus is the “Only Begotten Son/God” according to the scriptures right?Is God…[Read more]

To Jack and Keith:  As I mentioned, we are discussing this in three different threads now.  Let's continue it in the “t8 essence” thread where I've responded to Keith's “hammer analogy”. There's no need for us to respond to the same topic three or four different places, right?mike

I'm sorry Ed, could you show me how you come to know that the word “person” can ONLY refer to a human being?mike

Who are you? King Midas?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 26 2011,11:59)But if Deborah or Moses sits in the Throne of God ruling as Sovereign King of Kings and Lord of Lords over the Universe then I would say that they are God.Hi Keith,But would you still say they were “God” if you knew that they were only temporarily GRANTED BY GOD to sit in HIS Throne with Him?Once “God”,…[Read more]

Crap!  You posted at the exact same time I did, making my comment come AFTER your other post, and therefore it seemingly makes no sense!  

Okay Keith,I give you my permission to use my idea.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 26 2011,10:38)MikeAll that scripture means is Jesus could not die again not that death could hold him.Hi Keith,And does saying “God cannot die AGAIN” make any kind of sense at all?  God couldn't die in the first place.  Do you really think that the Almighty Creator of the Universe could be killed at the hands of m…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 25 2011,10:14)The book of Acts says that God exalted His servant Jesus. It does NOT say that Jesus remained servant after He was exalted.Thank you Jack. I will now add this to my thread of things I don't need to discuss with you any further. You have admitted that the word IS properly translated as SERVANT.I agree…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 25 2011,10:14)The book of Acts says that God exalted His servant Jesus. It does NOT say that Jesus remained servant after He was exalted.Thank you Jack.  I will now add this to my thread of things I don't need to discuss with you any further.  You have admitted that the word IS properly translated as SERVANT.I a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,10:07)JackJesus laid down his life and had the power to take it again.Jesus conquered death, he wasn't delivered from it, we were delivered from it because of him.WJJohn 10:18 NIVNo one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This…[Read more]

Hi Ed,First of all, I wasn't making a list of times Jesus was a Son, so to say I'm “missing a few” is not an accurate statement.Secondly, Jesus became the Son of God when he was begotten. He then became the flesh version of the Son of God when born by Mary. He was then begotten again from the dead and once again became the Son of God.I count…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 24 2011,22:21)Mike……….The JW's have it wrong too. The word Hell is simply GRAVE not some everlasting fire , there is no such thing as an everlasting Fire, in a literial sense even our sun will eventually burn out. You confusing Literal language with Symbolic language and manipulating them to fit you personal…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 26 2011,01:28)Mike Boll,Both Hades and Gehenna are called pits but Gehenna is the pit of destruction where the wicked go but the righteous do not.  Both go to Sheol, aka Hades.Did you enjoy the information, Kerwin?mike

Quote (Baker @ Feb. 25 2011,08:08)Now that is not even funny.  Now I wonder if this is the case in most Scriptures.  I tell you what from now on I will check all scriptures.  I sure opened a can of worms….Hi Irene,This is almost always the case with translations.  That's why I use NETNotes.  It shows 9 translations of the scripture (from the…[Read more]

Good one, Ed! He actually had it before anything else was created at all. When God begot Jesus, Jesus became not only the “firstborn of all creation” and “the beginning of the creation of God”, but also the very first “Son” of all time.mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2011,08:58)When is the last time you have led someone to Christ or given money to help the cause of Christ?I will answer you via pm.