Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 01 2011,02:14)Consider, your own point is misconstrued, because thegenitive is the case of possession, not the case of what the possesser is. It is form that belongs to God, it is not the form “God.”Hi Paladin,I agree, but that only confirms my point.  “Form” belongs to God in this scripture.  And in English, we would say “…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 01 2011,02:06)Hey Mike.Did WJ actually answer your question in the end?Did he wimp out of this debate?Funny you should ask, t8.    Do you want the long or the short answer?  The short answer is “NO, he has not yet answered the question DIRECTLY.”  The following represents the long answer, which is a discussion on this very sub…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 01 2011,10:25)Hi Keith,Mike just won't accept that all men are the same being, that is, they are the same entity.Hi Jack,You are right…………I WON'T accept that – because it is bunk. Individual men are individual beings. What source tells us they're not?mike

Gene,The dust returns to the earth. The spirit returns to Him who gave it. The soul sleeps with the fathers in Sheol…………until it is again awakened by the infuse of spirit and given another body to dwell within.mike

Irene said:Quote But it also says that JESUS WAS MADE TO THE LIKENESS OF MAN. If He was made like that then He had to be something else first. Paladin said:Quote He was “born to be king” but took on the likeness of the common man.Hi Paladin,You are correct that Phil 2:6 does not contain the definite article “the” preceeding “form”.  But the word…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 28 2011,13:26)SF said:Quote There is only one Christ, who died for all our sins.Exactly! Mike is just playing his dumb word games so he can avoid facing the truth.KJAnd what truth is that, Jack? The truth that Jesus is a messiah of God, which mean his God anointed him?I accept that truth. Do you accept the truth…[Read more]

Yeah, you're right. I read the whole page and my eyes do hurt. It is a big strain for some reason.mike

Ed,What scholarly or expert source teaches you that “person” refers ONLY to “human beings”?mike

Hi Ed,Agreed.

Ed and Gene,Scripture clearly says that all things were created through Jesus.  It says it many times in many different ways.NOT ONCE have I said that “Jesus created” ANYTHING AT ALL………..EVER!I have only posted what the scriptures say – that God alone created, but He chose to do that THROUGH His Son.Why didn't either of you address the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 28 2011,08:55)The Throne of David was “Gods Throne” in the earth and the scritpures says Jesus would rule in that Throne Forever and of his dominion there would be no end.Its now the Throne of Jesus becasue he is the succeeding King of Kings and all things are in his hands.Keith, I'm getting confused here.  Will…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 28 2011,17:15)Address the point I made about Jesus calling anyone that said they were the Christ that they were “false Christ”.Give me the scripture that mentions a “false christ”.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 28 2011,17:15)Adress the point that I originally made that the NT or the Forefathers do not refer to anyone…[Read more]

Hi Keith,What we have here is a failure to communicate.  You seem to be purposely avoiding a DIRECT answer to my question………….why?   This is a part of the Athanasius quote that YOU underlined:And yet they are not three Gods, but one GodKeith, I know that YOU, like Athanasius, believe that we have only ONE GOD.IS JESUS THE SON OF THAT ON…[Read more]

Hi All,Keith said to me:Quote MikeListen real close. There is only One “Christos” in scripture.There is only One “Messiah” spoken of in scripture.Unless you can show me a verse that says “Christ” (Christos) is ascribed to any other then you are just blowing in the wind.Dennison piped in with this brotherly love:Quote Blah blah blah mike. I just…[Read more]

Hey D,Here's one that speaks of Jehovah's messiah, Saul:1Sa 26:9 But David said to Abishai, “Don’t kill him! Who can extend his hand against the Lord’s chosen one and remain guiltless?” Here's one that speaks of Jehovah's messiah, David:2Sa 19:21 Abishai son of Zeruiah replied, “For this should not Shimei be put to death? After all, he cursed th…[Read more]

Hey D,Have you voted here yet? If so, how did you vote? If not, would you please?The same questions go out to Jack and Keith.mike

For Dennison and Keith:Isaiah 45:1“This is what the LORD says to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of to subdue nations before him and to strip kings of their armor, to open doors before him so that gates will not be shut:Do you see the word “anointed”?  That word in Hebrew is “MESSIAH”.  And the LXX translates it as “CH…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 27 2011,17:41)Dude. There is only ONE MESSIAH.This is the mentality of the “Jesus is God” crowd.  Dennison doesn't even care to LOOK at the SCRIPTURAL evidence I've provided.  Listen up D, “messiah/christ” means “anointed one”.  ANYONE who Jehovah has anointed is a “messiah/christ”.  Get it?  This is the SCRI…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2011,13:19)you have lost all the arguments to prove your point on those subjects and lost at all of them.you now so far from truth ,bible truth that is, it is sad.I agree Pierre,Gene is so far away from scripture on so many issues.  It's almost like he searches out and clings to any unscriptural thing out there that…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Feb. 27 2011,13:25)WJ, Lol did Mike really just replaced words such as prophets and high priest with Messiah?This is ridiculous. Talk about extremes.Hi D,You have become “Jack Jr.” on this site.  It seems that the only purpose you serve anymore is to try to belittle others while cheerleading for Keith.  Okay smartie, Click H…[Read more]