Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2011,14:01)What you have not even considered is that the Coptic may need the indefinite article in John 1:1 for it to make sense in the Coptic language.We know that it is not necessary (in this case) to add it in English!Ed,We cannot even begin to discuss the LOGIC of whether the “a” should be added in 1:1c if we can't start…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,13:46)Do you see the words “The god”? So if he is “The god” of all in heaven right now then is he not “The True God”. What is the difference in the 2 statements? You are just spinning!Here Keith,Let me repost my “stock” answer I've saved in my new thread for the many times you play word games about this…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2011,10:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,19:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,17:58)MikeIt seems altogether unlikely that immediately after Christ had solemnly promulgated the trinitarian formula of baptism, the Apostles themselves would have substituted another. IN FACT, THE WORDS OF ST..PAUL (ACTS 19)…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2011,13:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2011,07:33)Keith and Jack,I apologize for the dishonesty claim.  I'm pretty sure I'm aware of your intent, but I can't claim to KNOW that for sure, and so I shouldn't have implied dishonesty or lying.I'M SORRY.mikeThanks Mike!See WJ, my technique worked!   …You don't influence f…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2011,13:46)Hi Mike,Because for some sentences to make sense in English,the indefinite article (a or an) is “sometimes” necessary!As you know: neither Hebrew nor Greek have indefinite articles.This I know, Ed.  In fact I have been arguing this for months now.  So for you to act like you're “teaching” this to me right now is u…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 12 2011,13:26)Anyway, John 8:44 is not written “identically the same” as Mike has erroneously asserted. Mike originally argued for his freak Greek on the basis that they are written “identically the same.” Seeing that they are not written “identically the same” Mike has no proof for his freak Greek.What I did in…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 12 2011,13:04)I can't give Mike a tile for suggesting that I am dishonest and I wouldn't if I could. I thank Christ for counting me worthy to suffer for His sake.Hey Jack,What does “Christ” even mean?mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,12:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,11:28)Quote Jack says…WE HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED YOU! THE ANSWER IS NO!Yeah, but I said “HONESTLY”, Jack.Hi everyoneThis is proof that no matter what answer we give Mike it is not an answer unless it agrees with him!Whenever someone disagrees with Mikes answer then they…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2011,10:37)Hi Mike, OK…John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.(Google) ye the Father of the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,11:45)All others were so-called gods as Paul states and clarifies that by saying in the same context “there is no god but one”.No Keith,Paul doesn't say anything about any “so-called gods”.  What Paul says is similar to this:The United States has many presidents, but for us, there is but one President, Barak…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,10:46)Is Jesus the “Only Begotten (Monogenes Son) or not?Yes Keith.  God BROUGHT FORTH a Son.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,10:46)If he is in what way is his nature, essence, substance or class of being different than the Fathers?Well “God Almighty” isn't a “class of being” Keith.  God Almighty is O…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,10:18)Keith, is any one of these INDIVIDUAL BEINGS the exact same INDIVIDUAL BEING as his father?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,10:46)No.Thank you Keith.  I will add this to my thread.  Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2011,10:18)Keith, how many beings are there in this “class of being” known as “God”?Quote (…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 11 2011,08:30)(now notice if you can Mike). “and they benoaned him, and comforted him over ALL THE EIVIL THE (LORD HAD BROUGHT UPON HIM”……….Hi Gene,We know from scripture that Jehovah can neither be tested with evil, nor will He test anyone with evil.We could, however, understand the Hebrew in 42:11 to refer to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 11 2011,08:30)Please answer the question HONESTLY:Is it a COMPLETE GRAMMATICAL IMPOSSIBILITY FOR THE GREEK WORDS IN 1:1c TO BE TRANSLATED AS “a god”?Gene,I bumped these for Jodi Lee, but she never responded.Just answer to this scripture, and that should be that:Revelation 12:9The great dragon was hurled down—that a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2011,22:25)Excellent Post Mike,Good Job!!!   You nailed it down perfectly; the parts that Gene has missing from his formula!Your brother in Christ, Jesus!Ed J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 12 2011,10:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2011,04:19)Jack, Ed and Keith,ENOUGH ALREADY.  I have posed ONE SIMPLE YES OR NO QUESTION.  Which of you will be the first one to answer it HONESTLY?  The question:Is it a COMPLETE GRAMMATICAL IMPOSSIBILITY FOR THE GREEK WORDS IN 1:1c TO BE TRANSLATED AS “a god”?The an…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 12 2011,10:18)I said it was NOMINATIVE Mike! You're flippin out my man!Okay, I saw the “of him” you posted and assumed genetive. Now that I've looked, I notice the word “autos” in front of “theos”. Is this the case in 1:1c?mike

Jack, Ed and Keith,ENOUGH ALREADY.  I have posed ONE SIMPLE YES OR NO QUESTION.  Which of you will be the first one to answer it HONESTLY?  The question:Is it a COMPLETE GRAMMATICAL IMPOSSIBILITY FOR THE GREEK WORDS IN 1:1c TO BE TRANSLATED AS “a god”?The answer is “NO”, but which one of you will be the first to honestly admit this?mike

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2011,10:08)Hi Mike,The Bible can be translated many ways,but that doesn't mean they are correct in the least!Yes Ed,And that goes for the AKJV as much as any other translation.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 12 2011,10:11)Hey Keith,Did you see that example in Revelation 21:7 where the definite article is not present before the predicate “God.” The verse says, “The one who overcomes will have this heritage, and I will be His God.”The word “God” is prediacte nominative just as in John 1:1. So if we go by Mike's freak…[Read more]