No Ed,Wrong answer. Jesus died in 33 A.D. (approx)The first two ages you mention existed BEFORE he died. So his “dying on the cross” is not how those two ages were created through him.mike

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2011,20:59)Hopefully my “staunch” game playing (with you) has now taught you this valuable lesson.No, it just showed me you are as hard headed as them when it comes to admitting something you KNOW is true, but you don't want to.Compare the dance I had to do with you to my IMMEDIATE and DIRECT and HONEST answer to YOUR 1:1…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 14 2011,13:52)This is one of your better arguments Mike but it is still lacking because you are grammatically incorrect. And I stand to be corrected.Good. So it stands that God ALONE created everything, but He chose to do that THROUGH His Son.GRAMMATICALLY speaking, I have won this one. Hebrews 1:10 is for a…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 14 2011,12:17)So there is no rule of Greek Grammar you can conjure up that says that John 8:54 cannot be translated the way I have suggested.No………..there is NOT. It IS grammatically possible. It is not CONTEXTUALLY FEASIBLE, but it IS GRAMMATICALLY POSSIBLE.See how easy it is to be HONEST and DIRECT Jack?Now…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 14 2011,13:58)Is satan of God? Is God satans God, or has he chosen to be an enemy of God?Everyone has the same God, Keith……….even Satan and Jesus.  Not everyone realizes this though.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 14 2011,13:58)No Mike it is more like he is the God over the gods, that are not gods at all but…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 14 2011,14:46)Mike ignores that the Strong's says that the derivative of “genes” which is “ginomai” has a WIDE LATITUDE of meaning.Jack, not only did I post EXACTLY what Strong says about monogenes, but I gave the direct link. You can choose to accept it, or not.mike

Questions and points awaiting replies among the diversions:1.  Look at the scripture you yourself posted.  NO ONE HAS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME.  Did people see Jesus?  Okay then, end of story.  He CAN'T be God if people have seen him.  Open your eyes, Keith.2.  Your scripture also mentions a “begotten god”.  Hmmmm…………is God Almighty BEGOTTE…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 14 2011,14:56)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 14 2011,17:09)You know what!Mike is OLDYeap! The same ole arguments over and over and over again ad infinitum.KJDoes anyone else see these comments?  Does anyone else suspect that these three get together via pm and decide which thread to cause a diversion in?(Hint:  It w…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 14 2011,10:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2011,21:01)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,16:16)Hi Keith,Here are our very own words: Are there elohim mentioned in scripture who are neither “God Almighty” nor “false gods”? Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2011 @ 05:31)MikeYesAfter acknowledging what you did above,…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Mar. 14 2011,15:22)Keith said to Mike:Quote Exactly MikeWhich means that she is a “Judge” and not a “god” or else the Hebrews would have called them “their God” and not “their Judge”, man you are dense.Read my response and tell me which one of us posted something “dense”.Plus, I'm waiting for the answer to if I was wrong…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 14 2011,10:53)MikeIt is not a matter of different forms of “Elohim” it is a matter of what the Hebrew meant when they used the word depending on context and how it was used in referring to “judges, rulers, men, angels or idols, gods or God. This is the definition of the word and how it can be translated.Keith,If it…[Read more]

Quote (jbl @ Mar. 13 2011,15:21)I actually come from a family background of avidly practicing Jehovah's Witnesses. I was raised by non-practicing parents but have grandparents still active in their congregation. Hi again JBL,I hope things are beginning to look up for you, although it would be natural for it to take more time.  You mention your…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2011,19:12)Hi Mike,YEAA!!! you finally “hit” on the right question!!!It is a matter of interpretation.Hopefully they will give an “honest” answer?Thanks Ed,It was a post YOU made that helped me to think of that wording. And I also hope they will just honestly answer it…………..AND SOON! mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 14 2011,18:24)Mike, Most of your arguements are based on “Possiblities”.For example the “possibility” of Theos meaning “kings” or “leader” and what not. Though Theos can mean 9 different things, dont you think the writers mean ONE thing specfically. to Add:A possibility is just as good as a Scientific Theory, it could…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 14 2011,08:59)Then you also said…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 05 2011,18:35)Jesus is “THE god”, or “powerful ruler” OF ALL IN HEAVEN RIGHT NOW, and of the believer's on earth.   Found Here!Keith,I have spoken scriptural truth in all of my quotes that you posted.  You have taken the liberty of capitalizing the word “…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 14 2011,01:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 11 2011,13:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2011,20:24)Is it GRAMMATICALLY POSSIBLE to translate the Greek words in John 1:1c into English as “and the Word was a god”?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,16:31)NOBecause John was not a Polytheist and the Bible is not a Polytheistic book.But…[Read more]

Jack, this is a closed debate thread. You're trespassing. I've deleted two posts already. Please stop posting here. Thanks,mike

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2011,23:07)Hi Mike,SOMETIMES we need to keep all the quotes together,so you and everyone else can read what was actually said.Let me explain what you have failed to extract from my words.1. Because Jesus died on the cross, YHVH was able to create the world. 2. And because Jesus died on the cross, we have a “ReNewed” Earth…[Read more]

Gene, Gene, Gene,  First, you explain my “flaw” in saying God cannot be tempted with evil, and then prove He can be tested WITH EVIL by posting a scripture where people are bringing in tithes.  What's so EVIL about that?     And what part of that scripture shows God TEMPTING someone with evil?Anyway, here's the scripture that I was referring to:…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 13 2011,21:36)Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 14 2011,06:44)Until you understand that, you will remain forever linked to defending the trinity doctrine; based upon improper understnading of later events.He doesnt believe in the Trinity. We've discussed this already three times. But to be fair, he is fielding a lot of posts…[Read more]