Thank you Irene.Where's Georg been? I haven't read a post from him in a while. peace and love,mike

Google them. They are both die hard Trinitarians who most likely believe the “a god” translation to be a monstrousity. One of them headed the translation of a current Bible. They have both recieved many accolades and titles and professorships. They are both well published.If you're asking for the rest of the quote, I don't know, because…[Read more]

Murray J. Harris has written: “Accordingly, from the point of view of grammar alone, could be rendered “the Word was a god,….” -Jesus As God, 1992, p. 60.C. H. Dodd says: “If a translation were a matter of substituting words, a possible translation of ; would be, “The Word was a god”. As a word-for-word translation it cannot be…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,12:23)But check this out mike. If you started to call me gene all the time, and someone who doesnt know we are joking, would actually start to believe that my name is Gene becuase again he doesnt know me.And if Jesus made a habit of calling Peter “Satan”, then you would have point.Psh…………I don't care…[Read more]

You ain't nothing but a lower case g.

My sarcastic post was in answer to yours. Not only do I recognize sarcasm, I'm apparently better at it than you, because you did not recognize mine! Respect your elders, because they are smarter than you! mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,17:49)Than again Genesis mentions Elohim (Which is plural) talking about making man in “our” image.Now is it possible?Only if it's possible for God to talk to someone else.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2011,16:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2011,17:37)Murray J. Harris has written: “Accordingly, from the point of view of grammar alone, could be rendered “the Word was a god,….” -Jesus As God, 1992, p. 60.C. H. Dodd says: “If a translation were a matter of substituting words, a possible translation of ; would…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 19 2011,12:11)I could pray the same type of prayer Jesus prayed in John 17:5 “And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”No, you actually couldn't pray that unless you are CONSCIOUSLY aware of some glory that you held IN GOD'S PRESENCE before the world…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,13:00)Its POSSIBLE THOUGH ISNT IT?See Keith,He's masking a REAL question within a joke.  He speaks of the “a god” translation of 1:1c.  He knows it's possible and he's asking for your approval to admit the TRUTH.Will you give it to him, Keith?

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,12:19)No old man.There is only one God. According to Dennison, this is true.  According to the word of God, this is not true.  Hmmmmmm……………who to believe?D, do you ever wonder how Jehovah can be the God OF gods if there are no other gods?  Who exactly is Jehovah the God OF in that statement?Quote (S…[Read more]

Murray J. Harris has written: “Accordingly, from the point of view of grammar alone, could be rendered “the Word was a god,….” -Jesus As God, 1992, p. 60.C. H. Dodd says: “If a translation were a matter of substituting words, a possible translation of ; would be, “The Word was a god”. As a word-for-word translation it cannot be faulted.”Keith,…[Read more]

Hi Mark,Funny how you will make a joke as a distraction from giving a truthful answer. Let's try again:Murray J. Harris has written: “Accordingly, from the point of view of grammar alone, could be rendered “the Word was a god,….” -Jesus As God, 1992, p. 60.C. H. Dodd says: “If a translation were a matter of substituting words, a possible…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2011,15:57)It is you that says they are two gods, I am merely showing you that you can't have one without the other.It is me who actually accepts the teaching of the scriptures and says their are many gods mentioned.  But I also accept the scriptures that teach us the only REAL God is the Father of Jesus Christ -…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2011,14:23)That is straight out of Watchtower.Did you read my post, Keith?    The JW's think Jesus is Michael.  I specifically addressed this point in my post.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2011,14:23)If Jesus “kind” is “angels” then why do the scriptures say…For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2011,14:52)MikeEven if you say they are not the same being then if Jesus is of the “same kind” yet a seperate being then his kind is still the “God kind”. It would still mean that in nature he is all that the Father is as God just as you are all your father is as man.This is simple logic that you deny.What that…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 19 2011,14:21)WJ said to Mike:Quote What I find amazing is how often you use “hypothetical” scenarios to prove your points. Theory and opinions are not facts Mike?Right you are, Keith.And this can be proven by the THEORY that 1:1c shouldn't have the “a” is not the FACT that 1:1c CAN'T have the “a”.The OPINION that 1:1c…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 19 2011,14:18)When applying Mike's law to John 1:18 the statement becomes unintelligible.Why is that, Jack?  Does “my law” say the indefinite article absolutely MUST be added anytime it's possible to add it?  Btw, adding it in 1:1c does not make the verse “unitelligible”.  It only makes the verse not to your li…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2011,13:37)If we take your view then that would mean you have no concrete evidence at all the Father is the One True God, do you? How can we be sure of any translation and its grammar if it is open to contradictions and ambiguity?And that's the whole point, Keith.  When translating ANY writing from a language…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2011,13:44)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2011,14:32)And as much as you try to twist monogenes around, the fact remains that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.  No only begotten son of anyone has ever been that same “anyone”.MikeAnd no only begotten son of anyone is of a “different kind”!WJNor is any begotten…[Read more]