Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,17:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,18:02)I acknowledge that they are entitled to THEIR OWN OPINIONS, just as you and I are.  I'm trying to show that their OPINIONS are based on falsehoods and not scriptures.What you have acknowledged is you think you know more than 1000s of Biblical Hebrew and Greek…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,17:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2011,18:02)Remember, “CORRECT” is not the same as “POSSIBLE”.  “CORRECT” is a matter of OPINION.Tell me Mike how it can be “grammatically possible” for an honest man to translate the scripture “incorrectly”?WJWho's to say the “a” is the “incorrect” way? That's what I'm…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2011,02:40)Wispring,I am hoping that people will realize they disagree over a debatable issue as God can be used to refer to anyone in the unity of the Spirit of God.  In a different context it can also be used to those who seek to unsurp the role of God, i.e. god of this world, false gods.Kerwin,The closest most scholars…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2011,01:57)To all,What does “Elohim” translated to both “Theos” and “God” mean?Where have you been Kerwin? The “Mike versus Francis” thread has page after page of this discussion.mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 25 2011,00:08)and if u dont wish to continue to point, just SAY SO, like “thats nice, dennison, i disagree but i dont have time to respond”Yeah, what he said. If you have ONE question, or ONE point you think was important, then bring it up. But your posts are very wordy, and mostly filled with nonsense and your…[Read more]

No Keith,I acknowledge that they are entitled to THEIR OWN OPINIONS, just as you and I are. I'm trying to show that their OPINIONS are based on falsehoods and not scriptures. I'm doing that in the “Freak Greek” thread right now. Join in if you like.Remember, “CORRECT” is not the same as “POSSIBLE”. “CORRECT” is a matter of OPINION.mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,16:19)MikeIt makes no more sense to you than Jesus being both God and man. But it doesn't matter if you understand this truth or not for it is still the truth.Uh oh! Keith has really put his foot in his mouth with this one folks! Show me SCRIPTURALLY how we are brothers of God Himself. Because if you can't…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,16:40)No Mike. The point is the JWs were deceptive in their use of the scholars materials and quotes.Keith, If a scholar like Murray Harris clearly states that “a god cannot be faulted”, then it is not my job to also include the part where he says he doesn't like that translation.  Same goes for the JW's.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,16:43)When are you going to answer my questions MIke?WJAre you kidding me? Which question haven't I answered?mike

We all make grammatical errors here.  But just as it was funny the time Jack pointed out JA's misspelling of “intelligence” when he was slamming MY lack of it, it was also funny this time because of Jack's post that t8 commented on.mike

Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 26 2011,02:05)Hi Everyone,   Want to know what I believe is important? Learning the things truthful from what Jesus said. How about we try this for a while. Post Scripture where Jesus said something and speak our minds about it, comment on it, share how the things he said have affected our lifes and so forth. What do you…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 25 2011,12:21)MikeI voted option 2. But once again the question is loaded because the scriptures teach us that Jesus is both God and man.No Keith,The question is not “loaded”, as anyone else here will clearly tell you. The question is based solely on scriptural teachings that those of us who receive the anointing…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,09:38)LOOK——————->3 spelling mistakes and one grammatical error………………………>Quote (t8 @ Mar. 24 2011,03:49)WJ, it is neither.John 1:1c does not have a definite article before the last mention of theos.Both your options have the definite article.You ”CAPITALISED” “God” in the sec…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 26 2011,09:16)4 REASONS THE SOCIETY’S TRANSLATION OF JOHN 1:1 IS UNTENABLEKeith, Your post is senseless. It's like me saying that since the Trinitarian scholars say Herod had the voice of “A god”, then they should use “A god” ever time “god” is mentioned.Do you see how lame these arguments are?mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 25 2011,10:12)Bump to the dude that said…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2011,20:38)Jack, I have never:3.  Failed to answer a direct question that was related to the topic at handHey MikeI have another question for you.According to the testimony of the scholars is it grammatically “correct” to translate John 1:1c as…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 25 2011,10:12)Bump to the dude that said…Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2011,20:38)Jack, I have never:3.  Failed to answer a direct question that was related to the topic at handHey MikeI have another question for you.According to the testimony of the scholars is it grammatically “correct” to translate John 1:1c as…[Read more]

Hi All,I haven't yet begun to discuss the theos in 1:1c without the “a” added. I will, but for now I'm only clarifying that the “a” can be added for clarity without breaking any rules of grammar. And adding the “a” does nothing but clarify that Jesus was a god who was with the god in the beginning.This is the scriptural truth of the matter, is…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 25 2011,09:46)Mike,John 1:18 says that Jesus is 'the' God, the begotten God to be specific and yes that would mean that He is not the unbegotten God, that would be His Father. It uses the article 'the' not 'a.'Hi Kathi,So far in this thread, we have agreed that TWO gods are mentioned in John 1:1. You have pointed out that…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 25 2011,09:33)You can't even find any “anti-trin” scholars with any credentials to support you.Hi Keith,First, I HAVE quoted Jason DeBuehn, who has many credentials and is NOT a Trinitarian.Second, your own argument works against you. For it is the Trinitarian scholars I'm quoting who support MY claim that “a god”…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2011,01:54)To all,This is a vain argument since the Hebrew word “elohim” is translated to the Greek word “theos” and “elohim” can mean either “God” or “a god”.Hi Kerwin,You are right about the Hebrew and Greek words.  You are wrong about this discussion being in vain.  For once we know that the Word was “A god” who was with…[Read more]