Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2011,02:25)An angel cannot be a decendent of a human being.  Therefore Jesus is not an angel.A messenger most certainly CAN be a descendent of a human.  And “messenger” is what “angel” means, Kerwin.James 2:25 NKJV © Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them ou…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 25 2011,00:03)Assuming I Prove that Jesus is not an Angel, The Result would be,1) You are wrong2) That you were subjected to your own Wishful thinking as a result of being Wrong.3) Be Honest, and accept that The POSSIBILITY of Jesus being God is more likely than the past. (not that you started claiming, but OPEN to the…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 24 2011,23:20)Do you believe that God has a Right Hand? yes or no?YES.  Whether it is literal or metaphorical, I don't know.  I think both are possible, and referred to in scripture.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 24 2011,23:20)Does “Power” have a right hand? Yes or No?NO.  The abstract inanimate force we know as “p…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 26 2011,21:52)Hi Jack,David's natural father was Jesse, Solomon's natural father was David.  God wasn't their father by whom they received their nature from.  The only way to have a 'firstborn' type of relationship with David or Solomon by God was by appointment, not by nature.  The only begotten Son is firstborn by na…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 25 2011,09:13)MikeThe point is Jesus conception in Mary is not what makes him “The Son of God” is it?No, it's not. So why then do you pretend like we're claiming an “it” conceived Jesus? Do you have a scripture that says the Holy Spirit begot Jesus before all the ages?mike

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2011,02:30)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 25 2011,12:22)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2011,16:02)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 20 2010,10:56)What did the ante-nicene church fathers say about the Son as the firstborn of/over all creation?  Do they indicate that the Son was the first to come forth from God and then through Him all things came into…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 24 2011,22:10)Mikeif God can create a full women with a rib ,what would stop him to create a human with a sperm,beat me how some people think.Yeah Pierre,To keep Jesus from having a beginning, these guys will go as far as suggesting that we claim the existence a goddess with whom God literally procreated to create Jesus.It…[Read more]

Hey Keith,I was trying to see if I could buy Jason BeDuhn's book in electronic form, and came upon this review of the book:I am Greek, I have been raised in Greece, I have studied Classical Greek for two years in high school (Classical Greek is much more complicated than koine, or Common Greek) and I have been studying the original Greek text of…[Read more]

Hi Wispring,I concur with your and Wm's understanding. But you do know that Jesus was “anointed” with Holy Spirit when he was baptized, right? (Acts 10:38) Also, I think it is good to wait. I thought maybe you could post the next scriptures one per week. That gives everyone a chance to speak out about Jesus' “quote of the week”. But it's your…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:35)Because the Bible says Jesus is God………………and that is why it is a contradiction to your theology.Show me the scripture that says Jesus is God Almighty.  And to what “contradiction” in my theology do you refer?Also, answer my question: Why would you insist on using the word “true” and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:32)Yes unless you can show us how John 1:1c is qualitatively less than John 1:1b.Why is it on ME to show YOU the Word is “less”?    Why don't YOU show ME how the god who was with THE God is exactly equal TO that God?Anyway, 1:18 does a very good job of it…….unless of course you think God Almighty was “…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2011,16:21)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:18)I worship and serve only “One Lord and God” Mike.I worship and serve the only God that Jesus told us to worship and serve.  Jesus said that One is the “only true God”.  Hmmmmmmmmmm………….see how I follow the w…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2011,16:18)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:16)When are you going to learn that God would not allow other gods in his Temple. That would surely be a violation of the commandments.Well then, Jesus isn't allowed in God's temple either.  Because he is a god who is NOT…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2011,16:17)Crap!  I am so mad at myself for falling into it yet again!  I have followed you from a discussion about John 1:1 down the rabbit hole into a discussion about “everything at the speed of light”.Keith, is Jesus “THE GOD” he was WITH in John 1:1?mikeYep.John 1:1 s…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:18)I worship and serve only “One Lord and God” Mike.I worship and serve the only God that Jesus told us to worship and serve. Jesus said that One is the “only true God”. Hmmmmmmmmmm………….see how I follow the words of the one you want to make your God, and you don't?mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:16)When are you going to learn that God would not allow other gods in his Temple. That would surely be a violation of the commandments.Well then, Jesus isn't allowed in God's temple either. Because he is a god who is NOT “the only True God”.mike

Crap! I am so mad at myself for falling into it yet again! I have followed you from a discussion about John 1:1 down the rabbit hole into a discussion about “everything at the speed of light”.Keith, is Jesus “THE GOD” he was WITH in John 1:1?mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2011,15:59)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,14:27)The answer is “YES”. Do you know why I know this? It is because there is not one single example of a follower of YHVH calling any being “their” God or god, is there?I'm gratified and satisfied that you are being reduced…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,15:02)So since you think they are satans source then why use their material at all?Keith, when Satan quoted scripture and told Jesus to throw himself from the cliff, he spoke the truth.  But that doesn't mean his conclusion that it was okay to test Jehovah was the correct one, does it?Quote (WorshippingJesus…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,14:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2011,15:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 27 2011,14:15)KathiI find it amazing that like Mike you also use “Trinitarian” quotes to prove the opposite of their conclusions.Not everything Satan says is a lie, is it Keith?  Can we help it if the Trinitarians start off speaking…[Read more]