I think it is a grand idea for DIRECT questions.  I would also include adding a tile for LYING.  In fact, the Hot Seat hasn't had the desired effect, from what I can see.  I think we should add just one more category called "Final Showdown" or something like that. (More on that later.)I posted the words of three undeniable Greek experts saying th…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 01 2011,20:31)John 10 also clarfies that the father and Jesus are one. Just as the passage I quoted claims that WE will be one.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 01 2011,20:31)the question you fail to answer is how is it possible that two are in one?I didn't know you asked that question…………did you?    The Father, w…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2011,21:56)Mikethe position of every angel is not totally known ,but some are closer to God than others,some have authority over others etc….Agreed.

Hey All,Back to the subject of the thread:Who is “THE GOD” that the Word was WITH in 1:1b?  mike

Quote (Lightenup @ April 01 2011,20:51)The Word WAS a person with the God who also has divine nature…to be God/deity/divine nature would mean He was eternal.  That has to be.  Anyone NOT eternal would not have divine nature as original nature.Once again……………Scripture please?  Because if Jesus died like we die, as you've ac…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 01 2011,21:17)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 02 2011,20:35)I disagree with you, so PROVE your theory.SFi am not in accord with what you say so prove it PierreSee how it sounds, D?    “I don't agree with you, SO PROVE IT!”  Anyway, what's left to prove? Jesus IS a spirit being, and Jesus IS a messenger. What more is re…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2011,11:26)Paladin, does the LXX version of Psalm 138:2 say that Jehovah magnified His word above every name, or not?I'm sorry Paladin, I still don't see your answer.  Let me make it EVEN SIMPLER:Paladin, does the LXX version of Psalm 138:2 say that Jehovah “magnified His word above every name, or His name?  (The a…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 01 2011,20:20)also, there are several scriptures that speak of angels who dont deliver a message, so therefore what are they and why are they called angels?There are also loads of scriptures that don't deal with King David actually ruling on anything. Does that mean he wasn't the King during those times?mike

Hey Jack and Keith,WHERE ARE YOU GUYS? You sure didn't waste any time jumping on D's thread to post against me. Why aren't there any posts from you guys in this thread supporting me? Surely you guys don't think Jesus IS the Father, do you?mike

This is very simple, D. If you are claiming “the Father is in me” is proof that Jesus IS the Father, then the fact that the statement mentions TWO should be enough.But if you don't understand that, then the scripture that shows that the Father will also be “in us” should be enough to show you that “in me” does not mean that “me” is God Himself.mike

Okay, let me get this straight. You agree that Jesus IS an angel, because he spoke the message of God, right?So now what? Are you now trying to say that Jesus is NOT a spirit being? Because the last time I looked into it, Jesus is both a spirit being AND a messenger of his God.Don't these two facts cover BOTH of the meanings of “angel” that…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 01 2011,19:18)The pre-begotten God within God comes out and is therefore begotten, the begotten God.And what purpose did it serve for God Almghty to have another whole God living inside of Him for a time, only to beget this other God out of Him at some point?  I've noticed something about both of our ongoing discussions,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2011,09:51)BTW MikeIf Jesus was an “angel” when he was in the flesh then how do you explain this…”THOU MADEST HIM A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS”; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:.. Heb 2:7WJSee the “god/angel” thread that D started.mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2011,09:35)KathiIt would be nice if you believed what the Forefathers understood “begotten” means. And it does not mean he had a beginning of any kind.The what exactly does “God FROM God” mean?mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2011,09:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2011,20:38)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 31 2011,16:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 31 2011,15:39)    I believe I have the early church father's on my side as far as the translation of monogenes in John 1:18.  It is an adjective WITH a verb…an action.KathiYes and it is ne…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2011,09:12)MikeThat is right, “any general time period. Meaning he was begotten in time.”yowm”1) day, time, year a) day (as opposed to night) b) day (24 hour period) 1) as defined by evening and morning in Genesis 1 2) as a division of time a) a working day, a day's journey c) days, lifetime (pl.) d) time,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2011,09:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2011,20:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 31 2011,15:51)Yes KathiBut also in the context of Psalms he is set on the Holy Hill mount Zion when the Father declared “this day” he would be his Son.Hi Keith,Like Jack, you are imagining “links” that aren't even implied, let alone…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2011,13:37)If that passage says he wasn't Jesus Christ then it also says he isn't an angel.That's EXACTLY what Paul is saying.  Even though just a man, he was welcomed as an angel, like he was the angel of God, Christ himself.  So now it's time for the clarification of “angel” that Dennison requested.  Here's wh…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 01 2011,13:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2011,00:12)Of course you like the KJV.  They doctored the verse to change the meaning by adding their own word “even”, that is not in the Greek text.  Let's keep it without “even”, since “even” isn't in the original, okay?  You welcomed me as if I were a billionaire, as if…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 31 2011,23:30)What if i Said: “Man they treat me like a billionaire, as if Im the President himself”  .Hi D,If you did say that, my very first thought would be:  “What?  The President is not a billionaire……………I don't get it.”Now if you said, “Man they treat me like a billionaire, OR as if Im the President hi…[Read more]