YOU started this thread with something to prove, right? Much like I started the “Is Jesus the Father” thread. The difference is that I am solidly PROVING that Jesus is not the Father. You haven't PROVED that Jesus is not an angel of God.When were you planning on starting? I have already proved that he is. And since you can't seem to even…[Read more]

D,Can you prove either of the two things I listed for you? mike

Bye bye Dennison.  Your last post leads nowhere.  Both the Hebrew and Greek words for “angel” are the words for “messenger”.God has had many spiritual messengers and human messengers throughout scripture.  Jesus was at one time a human angel of God, more often called “messenger” in English.  But he is now a spiritual messenger of God, most oft…[Read more]

      So Paul was saying he was welcomed as an angel of God, as if he were God Himself?       Wm, does Bill Gates have a “higher status” than a billionaire?  What if I had said “Rockefeller” or “Getty” or “Hearst”?  Did I just list people who were “higher” than billionaires?Let me try this one:Welcomed me as if I were a football player, as if I…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 06 2011,14:08)Paul was rebuked for speaking against the High Priest and he admitted he didn't know he was the High Priest implying he would have given him more respect if he knew.Hey Keith,When it's revealed to me that you and Jack and Dennison are the High Priests of God, then I'll surely act differently toward…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2011,23:40)Some posters he are sincere in their believes even if we believe they are also deceived. Telling them they lie is therefore took as an insult as they believe they are telling the truth.Thank you Kerwin.I will remember that.mike

Quote (Lightenup @ April 06 2011,17:36)Istari,I never used the words 'incubated inside God' did I?  Let these words reflect my thoughts:He was begotten of the Father in a manner inconceivable and inexpressible by men, before any creatures were in being.I made a comparison to a human pregnancy in the past because that is the closest example of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 06 2011,11:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2011,22:13)Quote (Istari @ April 05 2011,08:51)The false speaker will never admit they spoke falsely nor that the other spoke truth so it must be accepted in oneself.Yeah, you could just live with it.  Or you could start a poll exposing the false speaking like I did.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 06 2011,11:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2011,22:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 05 2011,08:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2011,20:03)I would like to know how Jesus already had the glory of an ONLY BEGOTTEN Son from the Father when he was flesh if he wasn't “begotten” until after he died.Sure MikeAs soon as…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 06 2011,10:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2011,11:40)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 04 2011,13:47)Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2011,06:30)Or 'today' could be according to eternity where there is only today, just an eternal one.Gobbledygook Spoken like a man that has been solidly trained in “gobbledygook”, what…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 06 2011,20:16)Mike, if these guys are hard of hearing, then it is their choice.Our obligation is to stay on the true path.We are not responsible for those who err from truth.That said, we are obliged to speak the truth and hopefully the truth falls into good soil.Praise God for his truth.Point taken. Amen.mike

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 05 2011,07:24)Mike……….. So let us know what this “SNAKE” You call Satan looks like , is he a cobra , a python , a coral, a rattle snake or what kind of SNAKE or SERPENT should we be look for so we can identify this LITERAL SNAKE of YOUR. Your ask did EVE have a conversation with a REAL SNAKE or with Her self?…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 05 2011,19:56)WJ,Quote MikeWhatever you think you are doing is immoral and IMO is nothing but gangster mentality.Hahahaha! WJ, You should see my other posts where im callling him the “Godfather” lol!thats so funny that we came up with the same idea about mike.Maybe its just a spiritual truth that was revealed here,…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 05 2011,16:35)WJ said:Quote Until Mike can tell me that 1 Cor 8:6 is saying the Father is not Lord also then it is obvious that Paul is not saying that the Father is God to the exclusion of Jesus.Keith,Exactly! The distinction in 1 Corinthians 8:6 is one of function and nothing more. The fact that it cannot be…[Read more]

Keith, Jack, Kathi and All,Here is the bottom line and why I started this poll:I asked Keith this question:Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2011,17:37)Murray J. Harris has written: “Accordingly, from the point of view of grammar alone, could be rendered “the Word was a god,….” -Jesus As God, 1992, p. 60.C. H. Dodd says: “If a translation were a…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 05 2011,08:51)The false speaker will never admit they spoke falsely nor that the other spoke truth so it must be accepted in oneself.Yeah, you could just live with it.  Or you could start a poll exposing the false speaking like I did.  Maybe a little spotlight on the subject will make them think twice the next time.mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 05 2011,08:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2011,20:03)I would like to know how Jesus already had the glory of an ONLY BEGOTTEN Son from the Father when he was flesh if he wasn't “begotten” until after he died.Sure MikeAs soon as you can show us a scripture that says his Glory as the Only begotten Son was before he…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2011,18:54)Anyway, I'm glad you apologized, I knew you would.KathiAh…………but not so fast.  I knew I wasn't crazy.  Check this out from the “Get Lost mikeboll” thread that Jack started, Found Here Quote Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 22 2011,01:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2011,18:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ M…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 05 2011,19:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2011,06:35)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,12:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2011,10:34)Hi Kathi,I agree.  Keith?  Jack?  Dennison?  Mark?  Any comment on who “THE God” is in 1:1b?mike“The God” is THE GOD.duh.Hi D,And how many “THE GODS” are there?mikeThere is only…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 05 2011,18:38)Quote (t8 @ April 05 2011,19:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 24 2011,02:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2011,19:22)Now that we all know it IS a grammatical possibility, whether some of us like it or not, are we ready to move on?MikeI have never agreed that it is Grammatically possible but only that…[Read more]