Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,09:23)Mike said:Quote The thing we all agree about is that Jesus NOW has the glory of the only begotten Son of God, right?  But John 1:14 says he also had it on earthPaul was blinded by the light of the exalted Christ's glory. In the days of His flesh He had no such glory. Therefore, He had not yet been…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,09:13)The term “eternal generation” is the trinitarian's “achilles heel” not because it is misunderstood but because it is a contradiction within itself and therefore cannot be true.Hi Jack,Isn't that like the third “Achille's heel” of the Trinitarians you've mentioned in this thread? No wonder, the…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 08 2011,17:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2011,09:23)Paladin, I'm glad you asked………….instead of accusing me of wrongdoing.  I wish you had done that from the beginning of this mess.Quote Forget about the apology.  It's all out in the open now, and hopefully I've cleared up any misunderstandings your accusations m…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,12:05)Paladin said to Mike:Quote Until you present the post in which I ever make such claim, I will not post to you again.Yeah Mike! Cough up the post. You gave me a tile when I could not present the post.   Where in that post did I say that Paladin ever spoke those words?  My use of “crap” meant “…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2011,02:50)Are some stating that God made Jesus superior to himself?  If so I certainly disagree as that is not what these scriptures state.Hi Kerwin,I've never even heard a trinni say Jesus was SUPERIOR to the Father.  Equal……….yes.  But not “superior”.And that's certainly not what I believe or was implying.  If you…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 07 2011,23:57)Which of God's names do you perceive as not included in “above every name?”Hi Paladin,We're getting closer and closer to an understanding with each post, it seems.  I perceive it to mean “above every name WITH THE OBVIOUS EXCEPTION OF YHWH”.  Now you might not want to agree with that for obvious reasons.  …[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 08 2011,00:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2011,16:30)You gotta be out of your flippin' mind, Paladin.  No “brother” of mine would make a federal case out of implying I did something deceitful, and then CONTINUE in his efforts after I told him he was mistaken – as if my word was a lie.  And then REFUSE to even acknowledge t…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 05 2011,13:45)Now, Mike my friend, it cannot be referencing Jesus because the context is a reference to the mosaic Jews in Jehovah's presence waaaay back in Old Testament history.13 We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to prevent the Israelites from seeing the end of what was passing away. 14 But their…[Read more]

You gotta be out of your flippin' mind, Paladin.  No “brother” of mine would make a federal case out of implying I did something deceitful, and then CONTINUE in his efforts after I told him he was mistaken – as if my word was a lie.  And then REFUSE to even acknowledge that HE is the one who actually made the mistake and offer an apology.You do t…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 07 2011,23:09)You dont even know my thoughts on the matter beceause we have yet to dicuss it.Let me get this straight:  You are running around crying like a baby and saying mean things to and about me because I'm sitting here thinking “the Father is in me” is all you have?IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING MORE TO SHARE ON JOHN…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 07 2011,23:04)But dear sister, Jesus did not “become a man” in John 1:14. Do you see “Ieesous” anywhere in the verse?Ah, perfect. Now I know which point I'll resurrect from my WordPerfect file. But it's late, maybe tomorrow.mike

Quote (Istari @ April 05 2011,09:54)Paladin,Sounds of echo from my own thought and deed… Mike knows he did the same with me: said go ahead – post away then – do your worst … Then went bursurk when I did..!But Paladin, your response shall shown true desire for brotherhood with Mike – the brother I had in the beginning with him until his fall…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 05 2011,06:48)Mike……….Why are you having such a hard time understanding this, God's Word is above his names, it was by his word creation came into existence.Hi Gene,I'm not having a hard time understanding what you guys are saying.  I'm only pointing out that it is not only unscriptural, but also absurd to think…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 05 2011,04:18)Depending upon what “every name” and “each name” is a reference to. The difference, my friend, is whether “pan” is followed by possessive pronoun, or something else. The possessive “sou” is limiting “onoma” to “onoma of you.”No, the possessive “sou” is limiting “WORD” to “WORD of you”.  The “sou” does not…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 05 2011,07:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2011,12:46)Quote (Paladin @ April 04 2011,06:55)I have already made my “point” that you did not do what you claimed you did. You said you had my permission to do what you posted, but my permission was for the two posts in the reference, which you first edited, and then called into…[Read more]

Bump for Keith:Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 05 2011,18:38)Quote (t8 @ April 05 2011,19:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 24 2011,02:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2011,19:22)Now that we all know it IS a grammatical possibility, whether some of us like it or not, are we ready to move on?MikeI have never agreed that it is Grammatically possible…[Read more]

Bump for Keith, Jack, Istari…………whoever:Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 06 2011,11:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2011,22:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 05 2011,08:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2011,20:03)I would like to know how Jesus already had the glory of an ONLY BEGOTTEN Son from the Father when he was flesh if he wasn't…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 06 2011,23:28)Jsut because you state that its not literal, doesnt prove that it isnt. use the context. I ALSO have John 17 that proves it! obvisouly you must agree that Jesus being in Us makes him OUR God.Hi D,Have you even noticed within your two year old temper tantrums that I've answered everything you've asked…[Read more]

Istari,This thread is not about the function of the moderating staff of HN.  Please remember the topic of the thread in future posts.  If you would like to discuss who is a good or bad moderator, you should comment in the “Who would make a good Moderator” poll.  While there, you'll be able to see how I fared.  And factor in that I myself voted for…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 07 2011,09:02)Did Jesus ever go out to attack people that disagree with him or who even lied against him? Are you admitting something here?    You should, you know.  It's all in the spotlight for everyone to see anyway.  Save some face and apologize already, will ya?  Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 07 2011…[Read more]