Quote (Baker @ April 09 2011,07:47)But I am glad you think that Rev. 19 is talking about Jesus. Now what I can't understand then that You don't believe John !;1-14 is talking about Jesus also!!!! It is the same Jesus!!!!! Peace and Love IreneBravo, Irene!

Quote (Paladin @ April 09 2011,03:26)“Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the logos of God; 26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this…[Read more]

Hi Paladin,I have painstakenly gone back through this thread to show how this story of me “editing your pm”, or doing something else shady, progressed:Quote (Paladin @ April 03 2011,19:28)Nope! You posted part of my e-mail to you as though it was all of itSee?  No question there, but a FALSE accusation.Quote (Paladin @ April 04 2011,06:55)I have…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2011,22:51)Paladin, Even if scripture did not exist anyone who knows God should know that Jesus has been subject to him from and including the time he was created in Mary's womb.Hi Kerwin,I agree that Jesus has always been subject to his God, from and including the time that he was begotten before the ages, for the ages…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2011,21:33)Have you ever understood that the three are of one being, not are one being.  That is according to this definition.  You just take out the word 'of' and you get a completely different idea…one little word.Yeah, I've had many a conversation about that little two letter word.    God is NOT, nor are we to wor…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 07 2011,23:39)i asked you what is it saying, you ignored that too!Hi D,But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”en 1) in, by, with etc.The word could mean “with”, as in “one in purpose”.  Like if I say,…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,11:52)Yeah and I asked God to forgive me for it too. You don't see me continuing with it do you?No, sir………….I don't see you doing it anymore. Thank you for that and for your words. As someone once said to me, I am instructed by your words.mike

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,09:43)Does Paul call the Father our “one Lord” in 1 Corinthians 8:6?NO.  He calls Jesus our “one Lord” in 8:6.  See how that's done guys?  Honest and direct.Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,09:43)The distinction in 1 Corinthians 8:6 is only FUNCTIONAL.So we both agree there IS a distinction, but I…[Read more]

Hi Gene,I hear you, but disagree.  Matt 24 When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Messiah was to be born. 5 “In Bethlehem in Judea,” they replied……….. Messiah means EXACTLY the same thing as Christ.  Are you saying this “anointing Spirit” was born in Bethlehem, Gene?mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 08 2011,20:19)Which means you deny scriptures that say that there is only one God.Deny?  Or UNDERSTAND what they mean when they say "one God"?D, is Jehovah the God OF gods?  Case closed.mike

Quote (Istari @ April 08 2011,19:31)Authoriser is simply a reference to his status as Man…(who is man … You made him a little lower than the angels … Who are greater in power…)I agree……………..I think. I agree if you're saying that Paul quoted a scripture that WAS about humankind, and applied that to Jesus just to show that he was…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2011,22:39)I understand that Scripture differently in that Adam was created in two parts one part was created from the earth while the other was a Spirit that gave the body lifeOkay Kerwin.I can't say I know where you ever got an idea like that from the actual scriptures, but you're welcome to your view. Is this thought…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ April 07 2011,21:19)Mike, I am not arguing that Jesus was a messenger so why don't we address the heart of the issue, I assume you believe that Jesus was created by God based on these scriptures:Hi Wm,I don't think Gal 14 says anything about whether Jesus was created or not. But, “YES”, the other two scriptures clearly do…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ April 07 2011,21:11)Mike,Sorry but I felt my post answered that question.No, it really didn't.  It only offered your opinion that the second mention is of “higher status” than the first.  Which is why I asked you this:Quote What if Paul had said, “Welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Gabriel himself.”?  …[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 08 2011,19:45)Isnt obvious that im antagonizing mike in purpose?so dont try to belittle me, and see that im simply poking mikes buttons to get him to reactPlease refrain from "poking my buttons" then.  I have enough going on with people who are here to actually discuss scriptures without dealing with your childish…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,11:57)In the Revelation ONLY God and the Lamb are worshiped.Jesus isn't worshipped in any scripture. The angel didn't tell John to "worship the Lamb and God", did he? No, he only said "God". And we all know that our only true God is the Father, right? At least that's what the scriptures clearly…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 08 2011,18:33)Mike, did the One True God send “Jesus Christ”?(Think carefully!)IMO, yes.  It is YOU who for some reason doesn't think Jesus was his name from the time he was begotten, before the creation of the world.  I have no scriptural reason to think otherwise, do you?  Has Michael always had the name “Michael”?  Do we…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 08 2011,17:30)Because God gave Jesus “a name above every name,” without exception.Hi Paladin,You're coming along rather nicely.  You see now that it IS “Jesus” who was given “a name above every name”.  And I see that you are now using “every” name instead of “all your name”.  Now if I could only get you to see that your “w…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 08 2011,04:57)Mike, seriously, consider arguing with someone else who you feel you may be able to indoctrinate…I would suggest the same to you.  I've shown you what I can show you from the scriptures on this subject.  And I surely don't have the time or patience for your rambling, unorganized, and lengthy posts.  Now if yo…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,11:46)ISSY said:Quote It is certainly true that the glory Jesus had at his return to heaven was greater than the glory he had from before he came in the flesh.So where did you get this one? Is it from Istari 3:16 or JA 17:3?This is a total fabrication without any substantiation from scripture. He returned…[Read more]