Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 13 2011,00:23)Hmm as a JW this is a really strong argument for Jesus being the highest angel possible or Michael the Arch. Thanks Mike, The rebuttals are getting punched in the face with your fist of grammar. Hi between,I am not a JW, although I agree with them on almost every scriptural point there is.…[Read more]

Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 10 2011,21:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2011,12:54)Quote (dirtyknections @ Mar. 22 2011,18:30)Good. Now when did Eve die?In the very day she ate of the fruit.  Remember that a day for God is like 1000 years for us.  And no one was ever recorded as living over 1000 years in scripture – or anywhere else f…[Read more]

Pierre,

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 12 2011,13:05)I am “SORRY” for the confusion and take the blame for the wrong answer though I would hope that you will believe me when I say I was not being dishonest but rather did not look closely at your question or your comments.Apology accepted.  As far as “believing you”, show me by this example from the “Fre…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 12 2011,14:37)Hi AllI want to personally thank everyone who voted that Kathi and I answered Mike honestly! I have been here a long time and have no reason to be dishonest, I can scripturally defend my beliefs with scriptures and have no need of twisting, blotting out, or claiming corruption in the scriptures to…[Read more]

Hey Istari,Why do you suppose “THE Son of God” instead of “a son of God”?mike

But don't forget that Jesus is now a spirit being and still an aggelos of his God.  So while Jesus once was a human aggelos, or “messenger of God”, he is now a spirit aggelos, or “angel of God”.Hey Wm and SF, Are you guys on board with this statement, or do you have a rebuttal?mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 12 2011,14:49)lol… Man you are just like mike.How so, Dennison?mike

Quote (Wispring @ April 12 2011,01:18)If you believe masturbating seperates you from God then to you it is a sin.1 Cor 87 Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled. 8 But food does not bring us near to God;…[Read more]

Hi Irene,Did you see those last 4 I recently added? How did we miss them? I'm sure there are even more out there we just haven't thought about for this thread yet. I gave the link to this thread in my last post in the “incarnation” thread. We can only lead them to the truth, remember? mike

Hi Kathi,That is a good take on it.  We KNOW from scripture that all things came FROM God and THROUGH Jesus, but beyond that, we don't really have a clue as to how “hands on” Jesus really was.We only know that as the “Authority Figure”, his Father demands all the credit for all of creation…………..ALONE, even though Jesus presumably played a…[Read more]

Hi All, My understanding:I believe that Jesus was brought forth as God’s Only Begotten and Firstborn Son in the beginning, before anything else existed; and that all other things, including the heavens and the earth, all things that exist in them, and all of the ages, came into existence through him. (Proverbs 8:22:31, 30:4, Micah 5:2, John 1:3, 1…[Read more]

1 John 4:9 NIVIn this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

Revelation 19:13 NIVHe is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.

Hebrews 1:6 NWTBut when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all God’s angels do obeisance to him.”

Quote (csaliba @ April 12 2011,13:33)Jesus is the craftsman and the Father is the designer.Hi C,The Father takes all credit for all of creation. Everything came FROM the Father THROUGH His only begotten Son. What exact role Jesus played is uncertain, but we can't ignore the scriptures that say YHWH ALONE created.mike

Quote (Istari @ April 12 2011,01:43)he was saved to Paradise earth EVEN BEFORE THE JUDGEMENT.Istari, I see you have resorted back to your usual belittlements and insults, as if they make the point for you that your arguments cannot.    John 3:18 (King James Version)He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned <…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 11 2011,19:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2011,23:04)Hi Dennison,Deuteronomy 10:17For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.Psalm 82:1A psalm of Asaph. God stands in the assembly of El; in the midst of the gods he renders…[Read more]

That's funny Gene!  When you thought it was me, your response was:Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 07 2011,21:48)I do not want to be dragged into a meaningless discussion about Reena and Logos with you about this Mike.When you found out it was Paladin, your response was:Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 10 2011,22:58)Paladin……….Again sorry for the…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 11 2011,19:12)Than again the Scriptures literally state that the word was “made flesh”That now we KNOW HIM, and he dwelled amoung men.Add to that the fact that this “Word” had the glory of an only begotten Son from the Father.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 11 2011,19:12)Jesus said they search the scriptures for eternal…[Read more]