mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: Mike, do you agree that Jesus having been anointed with the Spirit at the river Jordan thus made him the anointed, our Christ?
Hard to say. Was Cyrus God’s prophesied anointed one from the moment he was born? Or did he become that when he wrote his decree to rebuild Jerusalem? What do you think?
Jodi: Jesus said, a man must be born of w…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: My problem Mike, is that it’s all about YHVH’s Spirit coming to dwell in a man and what that Spirit accomplished in that man once he was sent out into the world…
Yahweh’s Spirit came to dwell in MANY men all throughout the Bible. That has nothing to do with whether or not Jesus preexisted his time on earth. This part of your argume…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: Paul spoke of himself also concerning the flesh, he like Jesus was an Israelite according to the flesh, Jesus’s fathers were Israelites.
Fair enough…
Romans 9:6-7… For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are Abraham’s descendants are they all his children.
It’s clear that Paul is saying the Jews are his…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: How Adam came to be a human, how Eve came to be a human and how Cain came to be a human all occurred in different ways. This is the same for Jesus…
Thank you. That’s exactly what I’m saying. All human. All came to be human by different means, although Jesus and Eve are by very similar means.
Jodi: I would also like for you to addr…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: Here is the thing Mike, Matthew tells us directly that Joseph is Jesus’s bio father.
Matthew actually makes it abundantly clear that Joseph couldn’t possibly be Jesus’ bio father, since Mary became pregnant with Jesus before she had ever been with Joseph – and that Joseph, knowing about her condition, was even going to divorce her bec…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: We also know that David saw his own son in prophecy rise from the dead and be exalted to God’s right hand. David also knew that a future son of his would bring forth redemption and David’s own resurrection. We also know that Jesus is returning where he will sit on his father David’s throne where he will be a king of kings and a lord of lor…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: Hi Mike,
We do have common ground with both agreeing that just because God is able to do something doesn’t mean that he did, but we still are not on common ground with your comparison, your comparison doesn’t work for me at all, they don’t fit.
Hi Jodi. I’m not making any “comparison”. I’m simply pointing out the FACT that if God can crea…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
Gene: Mike……No you “didn’t dumb it down good enough for us”…
Well that’s unfortunate Gene, because I can’t think of any way to dumb it down even further.
Gene: …but it does show how really dumb you are though?
I just drew what you two describe, Gene.
Gene: The sun and moon are not under the clouds as your stupid drawing shows…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike: Btw Pretender, what did you think about my solar eclipse image that showed the rays coming from the very top and bottom of the HUGE sun and hitting the poles straight on? Quite a difference from your seasons image that implied a sun that is smaller than the earth, huh?
Why do you think NASA would promote one thing to make one claim and a v…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
Pretender, first of all, I didn’t say those words above. That was a copy/paste from Eric Dubay’s “200 Proofs”.
Secondly, there is nothing within Eric’s statement that says anything whatsoever about what “science says” about the reason for the seasons on earth.
I fail to understand how a rational person can read this…
Mike: YES! These are ex…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
Btw Pretender, what did you think about my solar eclipse image that showed the rays coming from the very top and bottom of the HUGE sun and hitting the poles straight on? Quite a difference from your seasons image that implied a sun that is smaller than the earth, huh?
Why do you think NASA would promote one thing to make one claim and a very…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
Since Pretender will NEVER actually SHOW us any of the LIES he accuses me of perpetrating, let me explain what this is all about.
I showed Berean that the Scientism claim for seasons is the tiny tilt of the ball earth. This reason is ridiculous and nonsensical – especially when they explain it as being because the parallel rays from the sun hit…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike: I already gave you the perfect solution to prove that you are telling the truth… Quote my statement that was intentionally designed to deceive Berean into believing something that I know is a lie.
Proclaimer: I told you what you did. You intentionally left out the real reason why lower latitudes are colder and made out the reason was…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
For Gene (I Saw It On TV) Balthrop and Pretender…
Hopefully my children’s cartoon has dumbed it down enough for you guys to understand how “clouds” couldn’t possibly be the waters ABOVE THE RAQIA that the sun, moon and stars are IN. So…1. What is your NEW answer for what the waters above the raqia itself could be in your worldview?
2. Pl…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
The saddest part is that Proclaimer clearly KNOWS what that cartoon portrays. And I KNOW that because of the “excuses” Proclaimer tried to use to get out of this situation…
1. Mike, does the Bible really say that the sun, moon and stars are IN the raqia? I’ll have to research the Hebrew.
So I did that for him and confirmed for him that the…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer: Cult members think truth is deception. That’s a fact. When it comes to truth, I am not shy. Truth is a sword that can hurt if you are on the wrong side of it.
I think you are a member of the Cult of Scientism. But let me make some cartoons to demonstrate your version of truth on this “cloud” issue – since you and Gene just don’t see…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer: No Mike. Bring it back after it is set and without going to a higher altitude to do it.
No Proclaimer. Bring back the finger after it has set over the countertop horizon.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike: What are these waters above the sun, moon, and stars that God allowed to flood the earth in your model?
Proclaimer: Bahahaha!
The water came past the sun moon and stars, to flood the earth. Lol. What can I say. I’m lost for words. This is a new low.
Correct. According to the Bible, God opened the floodgates of heaven and flooded the…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private thread for Mike and Proclaimer only: "The Bible vs Scientism" in the forum The Hot Seat 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike: IS THERE ANY SCRIPTURE THAT MAKES IT UNDENIABLY CLEAR THAT WHEN GOD USED THE SAME KIND OF LANGUAGE IN GENESIS 1 (NUMERICAL VALUES AND EVENING/MORNING ATTRIBUTED TO THE DAYS), AND THAT WHEN GOD CLEARLY EQUATED THE SIX DAYS OF CREATION WITH THE SIX DAYS THE ISRAELITES WERE TO WORK BEFORE TAKING A DAY OFF, HE WASN’T TALKING ABOUT LITERAL D…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 7 months ago
Jodi: Jesus is a bio son of David…
Joseph and Mary were betrothed where they would come together and produce children, however…. before they came together God brought forth their son by the power of His Spirit to fulfill the sign.
Mary was also of the line of David, Jodi, and so Joseph didn’t need to be the bio father of Jesus in order for…[Read more]
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