Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 16 2011,15:44)Now why in the world would I make that statement if I knew the question had changed or if I knew that I was lying knowing that the facts were there for all to see?Why in the world didn't you give the HONEST answer to the question you previously answered DISHONESTLY at that time?You could have, yet you…[Read more]

Quote (thehappyman @ April 15 2011,22:12)Hi Kathi & Irene ;                 I ponder every day of how God made everything possible and I thank you for discussing these points of view. I pray that I have not offended any of you. If I may add to your thoughts ; Peter spoke and said that a day can be a thousand years ; and a thousand years a day. Wi…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 15 2011,08:38)Mike and Kathy! You are right Mike, that man came into existing at that time, but before God created man, I do believe that there is a gap theory.  There is evidence that there were Pre-Historic Animals on this earth.  How do you think the got here?Hi Irene,I've never heard of the “Gap Theory” until you and K…[Read more]

Quote (csaliba @ April 15 2011,00:10)Mike ,When you say God it's not one person within God but triune, and we don't know how they function.Hi C,Our God is ONE, not THREE.  Scripture says so.  And our ONE God has a Son.  It's hard for me to believe that any sensible person could believe that the Son OF God is the God he is the Son OF.  There is no…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 14 2011,22:48)Mike,Of course God did not lie…He considers His Son as in Himself, not as Himself, but in Himself.Says which scripture?Quote (Lightenup @ April 14 2011,22:48)The Israelites did not know God as a Father and Son…that was for later. The NT teaches God as a Father WHO HAS A SON, not “God AS a Father and…[Read more]

Okay Keith, For the VERY LAST TIME!******************************************************************************************I asked Keith this question:Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2011,17:37)Murray J. Harris has written: “Accordingly, from the point of view of grammar alone, could be rendered “the Word was a god,….” -Jesus As God, 1992, p.…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 16 2011,14:36)My advice: Ask a question and seek ONLY THAT ANSWER. Ignore deviations! Rephrase wayward responses.       I've been BEGGING you to do it that way for over a year now!  Ask A question, that is not hidden in the middle of a bunch of insults and “world according to JA” crap, and I will answer it and even show the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,14:25)Mike,Quote That's a good scripture for you to remember when you're worshipping the Son OF God as if he were God Himself.  I worship the Son of God as if He were the begotten God Himself, along with the God who beget Him.  I thought you could get that straight by now.KathiOh yes, I forgot that you have two G…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 16 2011,14:23)Yes Mike,It is not to Angels… Therefore Jesus NOW NOT an Angel!Well, I guess you could say that based on that scripture………….which btw I brought up because my goal is not to be “right”, but to speak scriptural truth. But you must also then acknowledge that Jesus IS a spirit being who delivers messages…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,14:20)Cody is first your son and therefore your housemate.  Not the other way around.Okay, so I DID understand the point you were making.  I just feel it is a “non-point”.Being my son isn't a requirement for being my housemate.  Jesus IS Son and prophet and shepherd and messenger, but he isn't any of those th…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 16 2011,14:11)Mike, Jesus IS NOW… King, no longer Angel, nor prophet (Everyone who worship's God is 'Serving' God).Jesus WAS the King of the Jews even on the earth.  Jesus REMAINED a prophet of his God even after he was exalted, as proven by Rev 1:1.  Jesus is a heavenly spirit being who delivers messages from his God to o…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,14:11)Mike,Where do you get the plural pronouns from?7“YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS;         YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOR,         AND HAVE APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;8YOU HAVE PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET.”         For in subjecting all…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 16 2011,13:55)Mike,The point of Sinless was because you twist and turn your demands for proof that no matter what anyone shows you you debase with further nonsense and demands for further frivolous proofs.I see.  So you originally made a good point and backed it up with scripture.  But then when I pointed out that John the B…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,13:47)Mike,Jesus is many things like prophet, messenger, shepherd, vine, gate, teacher, etc. because He is the Son of the living God.  He is not the son of the living God because he is those many things.  Get it?Hi Kathi,I don't get your point. David was prophet, teacher, messenger, and shepherd, but it had n…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,12:17)Rev 22:9But he said to me, “Do not do that. I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship God.”That's a good scripture for you to remember when you're worshipping the Son OF God as if he were God Himself.  But your scripture does remind…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,12:25)In the context of that passage about Peter, Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God and that was the right answer, wasn't it…that was the inspired answer. That was WHO He is.And which one of us here is denying that Christ is the Son of the Living God?But as such, he is also a servant to his God, the…[Read more]

Hi Marty,Your scriptures show that Jesus was born of the flesh, as is stated many times in the scriptures.  They don't, however, say one word that would exclude Jesus from a heavenly pre-existence……….at least not that I can see.mike

Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,11:54)Mike,And here you go:Matt 24:36American Standard VersionBut of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.Bible in Basic EnglishBut of that day and hour no one has knowledge, not even the angels in heaven, or the Son, but the Father only.Here we go…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,11:46)Some are prophets for instance.  A prophet is not an angel.Hi Kathi,Does your statement mean you DO agree with everything else I posted? Anyway, Jesus was most definitely a prophet of his God.  And the passage you quoted doesn't say that as the Son of the Living God who was sent down to speak the words OF h…[Read more]

So what are you saying? That you “prefer” not to talk to the one who has you cornered on the “a god” and the “yet for us there is but one God” thing right now? Run away little boy.mike