Quote (Paladin @ May 07 2011,03:27)So, Mike, do you understand baptism is in heaven?No. I understand that the baptism that John provided was from heaven. I understand that to mean John's baptism was according to God's plan, and not the imagined idea of a mere man.mike

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 07 2011,09:46)Do you have a scripture anywhere that says Jesus was created?Hi Keith,That question has been asked and answered many times.Micah 5:2, Colossians 1:15, Revelation 3:14, Proverbs 8:22, Hebrews 2:6.

Quote (terraricca @ May 07 2011,12:18)all men and men made gods are only pretenders,they do not have goddly powersHi Pierre,Deborah and Barak were “men” right? Yet they were the gods that God appointed over Israel, and not “pretenders”. I think you're missing my point that TODAY, the word god implies someone with “godly powers”, but BACK THEN,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 07 2011,10:36)You don’t know that to see Jesus as the Son of God meant to the Jews that he was claiming he was God and the Apostle John understood his words the same way. Wrong.  The Jews themselves told Jesus that the only FATHER they had was God Himself.  Were they claiming that they were all equal to God at the sam…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2011,16:26)WJit does not matter what I say ,you say or anybody else ,scriptures are teaching that there is only one true God ,but that there are many called god but are only god pretenders not really true gods,Hi Pierre,Is Jesus a “pretender” and “not really a true god”?Hey All,I've read your posts.  And while it seems…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 06 2011,14:36)KerwinWhat is it about YHWHs and Paul’s words that imply there are “other gods but one”.Keith,What is it about Paul's words “there are many gods and many lords” that imply there is literally only one god? What is it about Paul's words “yet for us there is but one God, THE FATHER”, that imply THE SON i…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 06 2011,12:00)Paul’s words are very clear when he says……and that there is NONE OTHER GOD BUT ONE.NONE OTHER GOD BUT ONE means there are “no other gods”, period!So are Paul's words NOT “very clear” then when he says there are many gods, both in heaven and on earth, Keith?  Are Paul's words NOT “very clear” when he t…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 06 2011,04:00)The Jewish Scriptures are clear on this point: God is the sole Savior of Israel. The LORD says, “I am the LORD, your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior” (Is. 43:3); “apart from Me there is no savior” (Is. 43:11; cf. 45:15, 21; 49:26; 60:16; 63:8). Nevertheless, Moses, as God’s agent, is called a savior (A…[Read more]

Kerwin,Doesn't it seem to you that the Owner of the vineyard already had His beloved Son way before He sent other messengers first?Read verse 13 of the Luke passage you posted again.  God sent these other messengers for thousands of years before He finally sent His own Son, thinking they would for sure respect him.You understand it to mean that…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ May 06 2011,06:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2011,14:16)To me it seemed like a whole bunch of words that in the end, still didn't give a different meaning to “I came down from heaven” than the only obvious one.Paladin,  we don't need a lesson in the Greek language…………unless there is something in your post that makes “I…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 06 2011,15:49)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2011,21:06)So the words “all” and “nothing” are only as reliable as the context allows them to be. Hi MikeTrueEnough said then. Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 06 2011,15:49)But listen to your own words, you said…“Jesus was the beginning of the creation. of God…”.Earlier you hav…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 04 2011,15:50)Paul said……and that there is NONE OTHER GOD BUT ONE.NONE OTHER GOD BUT ONE means there are “no other gods”, period!WJApparently not.  For in the very next verse, Paul says there are many gods and many lords in heaven and on earth.Keith, Paul also says Jesus is our “ONE Lord” in that scripture.  D…[Read more]

To me it seemed like a whole bunch of words that in the end, still didn't give a different meaning to “I came down from heaven” than the only obvious one.Paladin,  we don't need a lesson in the Greek language…………unless there is something in your post that makes “I came down from heaven” mean something other than “I came down from heaven”.…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,Here's NETNotes about Proverbs 8:22…………..The Lord created me as the beginning of his works, before his deeds of long ago.There are two roots קָנָה (qanah) in Hebrew, one meaning “to possess,” and the other meaning “to create.” The earlier English versions did not know of the second root, but suspected in certain places that a…[Read more]

Actually, He created the PERSON Adam as male. He created the SPECIES adam, male AND female.I believe I learned this from you t8. mike

Hi Keith,1 Cor 15:27 says “all things”, but then explains that “all things” doesn't include “GOD HIMSELF”.Hebrews 2:8 says that God left “nothing” that He did not put under Jesus. We can assume that the “nothing” in this verse also does not include “GOD HIMSELF”.So the words “all” and “nothing” are only as reliable as the context allows them to…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 05 2011,18:32)He obeyed the Word of God without sin even unto death on the cross.Hi Marty,The KJV renders it correctly. What do you think the difference is between saying “his name is called the Word of God” and “he is called the Word of God”?And why do you think someone who merely obeyed the Word of God would be called the…[Read more]

Hi Keith,I don't have time for this anymore.  I won't ask you a question here, but give you my understanding.  You can either agree with it or not.I don't believe that the title “God OF gods” means that there can literally only be one god period.  And I don't think that it means Jehovah is the God of “false gods” and “idols” either.  I believe tha…[Read more]

Keith,Forget it okay?  Read my post in the “Question #4” thread.  I just don't have the patience for this anymore, dude.The scripture CLEARLY lists “THE FATHER” as our “one God”……………AND NO ONE ELSE.The scripture CLEARLY lists “Jesus Christ” as someone OTHER THAN the Father, who is listed as our “ONE God”.The scripture lists Jesus as o…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 05 2011,09:08)Yes, we know that Jesus is not the Father but once again…”How does that prove Jesus is not God?”Hi Keith,I think I'm worn down from doing this.  You make so many nonsensical claims defending your comically flawed, man-made doctrine……………and I've grown weary of arguing with a crazy mind.  If m…[Read more]