See?  After your brother in Christ demands that you don’t call him a liar, you went post after post after post talking about how it is your duty to call out lies – again making it abundantly clear that I was the “liar” you were calling out.

And in the middle of your condescension against me, you even admitted that I had corrected you… which…[Read more]

Do you see how I tried to be the peacemaker that you claimed to be?  Do you see how I tried to explain to you the difference between an INTENTIONAL act to WILLFULLY deceive someone else on purpose, and somebody making a simple mistake?  Yet I was met with every post from you including the word “lie” – in some condescending further attack on my c…[Read more]

Notice my correct response in the blue square.  Notice your immediate attack against my character in the red square. What part of what I said was wrong – or a lie?  Now you will later say that you didn’t *literally* come out and call me a liar – but anyone who reads your comment in the red box above will agree that you were indeed calling me a l…[Read more]

Do you really want to do this again?  Okay.  It started with you posting an illustration of a disk earth with 3 people looking off in different directions.  And you asked if the earth was flat, how could all 3 of those people see the same sky.  And I rightly responded that all 3 people WOULDN’T see the same sky – since they are on different par…[Read more]

From a year and a half ago…

The next day on the same thread…

And ignore you I did… for over a year.  In fact, I’ve just recently began having some very cursory discourse with you again.

And the above isn’t the only time I’ve called you out for calling other members here liars – as many of them can attest.

And no, nobody is falling…[Read more]

Gene:  NO WHERE DOES ANY SCRIPTURE ACTUALLY  SAY ,  A physical body can not exist in the kingdom of God.

I never made any such claim.  I claim that flesh and blood (also known as “flesh and bone” – both of which are poetic ways of saying “human being”) cannot see, enter, or inherit the kingdom of God.  If Jesus is a human being, then he’s inel…[Read more]

Adam:  Yes you got the point behind my negation of the NT as it had deviated from its original source and made the mess of every thing.

 

Proclaimer:  Whereas, I see that the mess is in your own mind…

I agree that the mess is in Adam’s mind, and of his own making.

Adam:  The book of Daniel is a non-prophetic book in the Hebrew Bible written in 2nd BCE by a pseudo writer.

Proof please?

Adam:  Hi Proclaimer, you seem to judge others so fast without knowing their heart.

Agreed  He is quick to call others liars, or insinuate that they are less enlightened than him,  just because they interpret certain information differently than he does.  I have condemned this behavior many times on this forum.

That being said, I don’t con…[Read more]

Jodi:  …in these last days, hath spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, through (by reason of) whom also made the worlds…

Hi Jodi, would you agree that another way of saying “by reason of” would be “for”?  Do you understand the above verse as saying God made the worlds FOR his Son?

Proclaimer:  And why is it hard to believe in the grandiose plan from a God that created the cosmos.

Could you please show me this “cosmos” that God created in scripture?  All I can find is a heaven and an earth separated by a firmament, in which lights called the sun, moon and stars run appointed circuits over the earth.

Carmel: YOU Gene, AS SOON AS YOU HAVE FAITH AS A GRAIN OF A MUSTARD SEED YOU COULD PERFORM MIRACLES EVEN GREATER THAN JESUS DID!

Sounds like you’re making Gene’s argument for him.  He said that Jesus didn’t do the miracles, but God did the miracles through Jesus.  And you rightly point out that, with enough faith, God can do similar and even gr…[Read more]

Gene:  No matter what the king said,  he was called that,  because he told the people what the king said  to tell them.   The kings word went to the servant,  and the servant told the people,  exact the same as any prophet of God did,  and that  includes  “Jesus”.

And that servant of the king was called “The Word of the King” because he was…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Remember @Stu, he did those things and it was necessary to restrict him to topics dedicated for Skeptics.

I not only remember Stu, I liked him and miss him.  I wish I had the chance to have another go with him about the absurdity of billions of years and big bang and common descent evolution.  I know way more now about that non…[Read more]

Adam: In the Hebrew Bible ‘son of God’ never meant a literal divine being as imagined by the NT writers.

Gen 6:2… the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.

Deut 32:8… When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of th…[Read more]

Adam:  It revolves round and round the mulberry bush without coming out clearly that Jesus is God or man.

The NT is very clear that Jesus was existing in the form of a god, but then emptied himself and was made as a man – born of a virgin via God’s Holy Spirit.  He was a god, then dwelled on earth as a man for 33 years, and is once again a god i…[Read more]

Danny:  Because He is His only begotten Son.
Well then how can we consider Him to be a lesser god?

Proclaimer:  However, if this was the intended point of the New Testament writers and God who inspired them, then you would see language like, ‘the lesser god Jesus Christ…’.

Or “You are the Son, a lesser god than the Father” – Peter.…

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Proclaimer: Great question. Did he answer it?

Of course not.

Gene:  You say the word Angel means a messenger, while I do agree with that,  but there are scriptures , that I produced that say God did not subject the world to come unto the Angels , which would negate Jesus from being in it if he were an angel of any kind. right? Heb 2:5

If you agree an angel is a messenger, then use it in Heb 2:5…

God d…[Read more]

Gene:  You say,  Jesus said I existed before Abraham,  scripture says before Abraham existed,  “I am”. A completely different word in the text.

Gene, how many times do we have to go through the same thing?  I’m going to ask you some simple, point-blank questions.  Please answer them honestly.

1. Do you understand that the Greek language…[Read more]