Kathi,I just don't get you anymore.  You make the blasphemous claim that God owes His “Almightyness” to one of the beings He created.  And then you list things that you haven't thought through.  For example:Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,21:38)Could God be a Father of a proper offspring without Jesus?Is there any rule that says God HAS TO BE a Fa…[Read more]

From Kathi's Syriac thread:and get you a new mind, that worships the Maker and not the things which are made-a mind in which is portrayed the image of verity and of truth, of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit; believing and being baptized in the triple and glorious names.Are you SURE it's one name, Keith?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 03 2011,15:54)Hi MikeYea and while you are at it make sure that when you say God showed you something that you say “they” showed me this or that unless you believe the Father speaks to you apart from Jesus and the Holy Spirit.No Keith,If GOD tells me something, then I will say that it came FROM God, THROUGH Jesus,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 03 2011,15:54)Hi MikeYea and while you are at it make sure that when you say God showed you something that you say “they” showed me this or that unless you believe the Father speaks to you apart from Jesus and the Holy Spirit.No Keith,If GOD tells me something, then I will say that it came FROM God, THROUGH Jesus,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2011,11:47)You anti-Jesus is God crowd create these logical fallacies with the terms "all things come through" or "all things were created through" as if because something comes through something that it is not coming "FROM" the one it is coming through.And of course you deny clear scripture that says Jesus by his…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 02 2011,00:32)Quote There is NO scripture that states "God created alone through Jesus"In fact if you wanted to be Scriptuarly Truthful you could have stated "God creates alone"  and "all things were created though/by Jesus"So your statement is just an example of your lame attempt to try to mix in scripture to make it fit your…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 01 2011,22:17)You wrote:Quote Where is any being called a "false god" in scripture, Kerwin?I was not speaking of scripture.Well if we're not speaking of scripture, then what are we doing here?   Kerwin, I have one main point that I want EVERYONE here to understand:  It is "politically correct" and commonly believed that th…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 02 2011,20:58)Mike all those conflicts are there because they do not accept the scriptures as they are,and they do not believe them .PierreI know.  And the worse part is that when we dig deep and find obscure scriptures to show them their errors, they resort to all kinds of nonsense that no sensible person should ever…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 02 2011,20:58)Mike all those conflicts are there because they do not accept the scriptures as they are,and they do not believe them .PierreI know.  And the worse part is that when we dig deep and find obscure scriptures to show them their errors, they resort to all kinds of nonsense that no sensible person should ever…[Read more]

Paladin,These are YOUR words:Quote If in fact, Jesus had prior glory, and now does not, but asks to have it again, the tense would not be “imperfect” for the “imperfect” references action that was continuous.It is THESE words to which I responded, showing yet another of your many claims to be inaccurate.But instead of ACKNOWLEDGING this fact and…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,21:07)There goes that vivid imagination again, Mike. Really Marty?  I showed you a scripture where it is CLEAR this happened (presumably by the same author), yet I'm “imagining things” to think it happened again?  Would it help if I found more of the same?Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,21:07)Mike, Jesus could have let h…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 02 2011,20:35)Let me give you a clue how he knew. After he was born, God told him about it.Hi Marty,Okay, so I was right that you supposed God told him or showed him or whatever. Now, what was so great about “existing” inside of God's heart without a mind, will or emotions that Jesus asked to go back to that state?And why…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,20:34)Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died.  Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He existed as a being before He became…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,20:34)Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died.  Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He existed as a being before He became…[Read more]

Kathi,No offense, but your post is nonsensical fluff.  God would be equally Almighty whether or not He ever beget a Son.  How is it that you've come to the conclusion that God in any way NEEDS Jesus?God is self-sufficient and NEEDS no one.  How does God GIVING all power and authority to His Son somehow make Him more mighty?  God is the source of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,20:10)Mike,Godhead is a singular noun, remember?  The government is weak, not the government are weak.And when you show me how “elohim” or “theos” mean “Godhead”, you'll have a point. Until then, we'll be here to help correct Keith and get him used to walking the walk.

Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,20:10)Mike,Godhead is a singular noun, remember?  The government is weak, not the government are weak.And when you show me how “elohim” or “theos” mean “Godhead”, you'll have a point. Until then, we'll be here to help correct Keith and get him used to walking the walk.

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 02 2011,19:33)I honestly have not seen that from Kieth, and im not one to be biased.     D, look again at Keith's “award winning” scripture.  Does that scripture say that ANY soul at ANY time has ever died?  Only God can destroy a man's soul – has this happened to anyone yet?The only difference between Jesus and mos…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 02 2011,19:33)I honestly have not seen that from Kieth, and im not one to be biased.     D, look again at Keith's “award winning” scripture.  Does that scripture say that ANY soul at ANY time has ever died?  Only God can destroy a man's soul – has this happened to anyone yet?The only difference between Jesus and mos…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2011,13:33)God is Spirit and the Spirit of Jesus did not dieHi Keith, I think Istari is saying what I've said to Kathi many times:  Jesus died EXACTLY the same way anybody has ever died since the beginning of the world.OUR spirits don't die either, but return to the God who gave them, right?Paul said that at one…[Read more]