Mike: Is it scriptural that God did miracles through His holy servant Jesus?  Is it scriptural that God has done miracles through many of His other servants throughout the Bible?

Carmel: YOU NEVER ASKED THE ABOVE QUESTION BEFORE and  I NEVER ANSWERED IT, Mike.

I did ask it.  In fact, this second time I just copied and pasted the same quest…[Read more]

Mike: Do you see the great deep of waters under the earth?

Proclaimer:  Oh yeah, I see it.  What is below that? Or does the water go forever and ever and ever?

From my same post…  We are not told what – if anything – is below the waters that are below the earth… only that below the earth is water.

Mike:  Where are the waters below the firmament…

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Berean:  THE SON OF GOD HAS IN HIMSELF THE POWER TO CREATE ALL THINGS.

God’s firstborn Son has exactly the amount of power and authority that his and our God grants him.  His and our God could absolutely grant Jesus the power to do anything He could do… but Jesus’ God hasn’t granted him that much power.  A very lot of power to be sure, but no…[Read more]

Berean:  Again, The One BEGOTTEN Son of God is NOT THE MIGHTY GOD IN PERSON, BUT HE IS THE EVEN SUBSTANCE OF THE MIGHTY GOD. THIS IS WHY JOHN WRITTEN:
AND THE WORD WAS “THEOS”.

If by “substance” you mean spirit – then yeah, Jesus is made of spirit substance just like his Father, and his Father’s many other spirit sons.  Likewise our children consi…[Read more]

Berean:  SO YOU DON’T BELIEVE THAT HE WAS REALLY BORN, BEGOTTEN, OF THE SAME BEING OF GOD THE FATHER, AS WE ARE THE SAME HUMAN SUBSTANCE AS OUR FATHER AND MOTHER …

No.  I don’t believe God has both sperm and egg and fertilized Himself to beget Jesus.  Nor do I think God broke off a piece of Himself and placed it in a different pot like we can do…[Read more]

LU:  The Father identifies the Son as YHVH who laid the foundation of the earth. Enough said.

It has been amazing to have watched you for over a decade building an entire quite bizarre Biblical doctrine from a single verse here and a single verse there –  each being very generously interpreted to show favor to your cause of course.

That being s…[Read more]

LU:  It is not poetry. The term is “collective singular,” or “collective singular.”

These are examples of collective nouns…

She comes from a decent family; she is the youngest of six kids.
The pop group will go on world tour next month.
Our cricket team has star players who can win the world cup.
The committee has enjoyed donuts with the…[Read more]

Berean: Mike

JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.

Agreed.  But remember that the Son OF God cannot possibly BE the very God he is the Son OF.

Berean: HE HAS THE SAME NATURE OF HIS FATHER (HEBREWS 1)

Agreed.  Jesus has the same spirit nature as God – and all of God’s other spirit sons.  We are also sons of God, but we do not yet share God’s spi…[Read more]

LU: Yes YHVH who is our one creator, who is both God and Lord, Father and Son, are my Father and my Brother.

Now leave out the middle part and say these words out loud to yourself… Yes YHVH are my Father and my Brother.  I can picture you doing that right now, and your pride overcoming your logic and convincing you that it’s perfectly normal to…[Read more]

Berean: Christ said, “THE LORD POSSESSED ME’ ‘IN THE BEGINNING’ of his way…”

The event was when the LORD possessed Him, or as one being acquired.

That was a nice read.  I agree that the wisdom in Prov 8 is Jesus.  Now we only need to determine the meaning of the word translated in the KJV as “possessed”.

“Possessed” is one of the possible meani…[Read more]

LU: Proclaimer,

Israel is a he/him also.

Exodus 4:22“Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD, “Israel is My son, My firstborn. 23“So I said to you, ‘Let My son go that he may serve Me’; but you have refused to let him go. Behold, I will kill your son, your firstborn.”’”

YHVH is a He/Him. That does not mean YHVH is only one person. Is…

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These are the questions I asked…

Now please tell us about that liar King David.  Did he lie about the sun intentionally?  Or was he lying about the sun because he was deceived?  Who deceived him?  And how do you know he was lying about the sun in the first place?  Who told YOU the truth about the sun, thereby proving that King David was a liar?…

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Proclaimer:  If I state the facts and someone is on the wrong end of the facts…

Well that’s among the things we’re trying to determine here.  It’s clear that you don’t want to directly address my previous posts because you know that anything you say will expose your previous erroneous statements.  But facts don’t care about your em…[Read more]

Berean: Jesus Christ IS THE almighty SON OF GOD , HIS BEST WORKER.

JESUS IS GOD AND MAN .

DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND MIKE?

Very difficult to understand, I’m afraid.  You are simultaneously saying that Jesus is God’s best worker, and that he IS the very God who he’s the best worker for.  You are saying that God is a man.  These are indeed very dif…[Read more]

Adam:  Matthew knew as well as modern scholars do that Isaiah 7:14, quoted in Matthew 1:23, is talking about the birth of a child, likely Isaiah’s own son, whose name would remind the wavering people that “God is with us” and will defeat our pagan adversaries.

Well, it’s good to know that you have now come to understand that Immanuel means “God I…[Read more]

Mike:  Is it scriptural that God did miracles through His holy servant Jesus?  Is it scriptural that God has done miracles through many of His other servants throughout the Bible?

Carmel: Again Mike, NOT QUITE PRECISE…

Carmel, please just answer the two questions above this time.  Thanks.

Berean: Ephesians 3

…God, who created all things by Jesus Christ.

So who created all things?  The answer is right there in the verse you quoted…  “God, who created all things”.  And note how Jesus is once again distinguished as someone OTHER THAN the God who created all things – even in the verse YOU quoted! If Jesus was God, then it wou…[Read more]

LU: Mike,

YHVH is our ONE creator and YHVH is God and Lord, Father and Son.

So the TWO of them together are our ONE Creator?  Is our ONE Creator both your Father AND your brother?  Will you state for the record that you consider yourself to be both the daughter AND the sister of our ONE Creator?

You seemed to have missed this one…

Based on th…[Read more]

@Lightenup

Why did you run away, Kathi?  There are questions pending (I may have just answered my own question).

Who is our ONE Creator?

Who is our ONE Creator according to the Apostles who prayed in Acts 4?  (Obviously I refer to the words of their prayer as recorded by Luke, and not to your own supposition regarding what they “…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  But I bet the meaning is virgin.

You would win that bet.

Now please tell us about that liar King David.  Did he lie about the sun intentionally?  Or was he lying about the sun because he was deceived?  Who deceived him?  And how do you know he was lying about the sun in the first place?  Who told YOU the truth about the sun, there…[Read more]