You say that the being of the Father and the being of the Son, when together, are logically referred to as a “HE” when THEY are really a “THEM”.  I find that odd, because I've never talked that way, nor ever read any words by anyone all my life where TWO persons together are referred to as a “HE”.So if by “compound unity”, you mean an example…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2011,22:29)but you think I can not answer because I have not study Greek or Hebrew?No, I don't think that. And I would never tell you that learning the Hebrew and the Greek was necessary for you. I won't put conditions on how you come to a better understanding of God. And I would ask the same from you.peace,mike

Well, last week the “unity” of the two “mighty Gods” was what formed the one “Almighty God”. What is it again this week?

Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2011,22:06)Quote (Lightenup @ July 20 2011,21:57)According to Kathi, you guys are united in stubborneness…one compound unity of stubborness KathiQuote stubbornenesswe should be you are keeping trowing that bolt in the gears of truth     PierrePierre,I think she's just getting testy because she's starting to r…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 19 2011,21:53)So, you want me to show you how a compound unity is referred to with singular, personal pronouns.  Is that right?  And will that put an end to it?KathiI want you to show me an example where two or more PERSONS are ever referred to with a singular, personal pronoun such as “HE” or “HIM”.

Quote (Lightenup @ July 19 2011,21:50)As you can see, I am not going play how many ways can we write the equation in order to confuse everybody. It is what it is.That's true. And what it is is a figment of your imagination that is not supported by ANY scripture in the Bible.Like I said: It's YOUR story, tell it how you want to.

Quote (Lightenup @ July 19 2011,22:04)Mike,I did not list that link to show that Jesus was God Almighty by those verses, I showed them to prove the deity of Christ, and that they do.  You should read the op of that thread if you want to boast of your research skills.  Pride cometh before a fall Mike and you are about to fall, can't say I didn't w…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2011,21:43)my point was to mention that it is not a necessity to learn Hebrew or Greek,But you say that in ignorance, I believe.  For you blindly accept what the English translators have told you to accept.John 1:18 refers to “the only begotten god”.  Yet here's what the Trinitarian translators of the NIV would have y…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 19 2011,11:39)Pierre,My view has been backed with scripture.  You don't seem to like all the scriptures.For instance, look at this thread full of scripture.  You won't like the scriptures, I can almost guarantee it but never the less, they are found in the Bible.https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….90;st=0Pierre,Did you l…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 18 2011,22:14)When Jesus is talking as the 'man' he hasn't stopped being the person that pre-existed.  He is both…100% the Son of God who pre-existed and 100% the man that was given life in Mary.When He talks about the life which God had given Him He is referring to the life as the man.  We know that He wasn't always a m…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 19 2011,20:44)Furthermore, the fact that the word for God in Hebrew is Elohim, a plural noun, we have further inference of a compound unity.And King Nebuchadnezzar was referred to by the plural word for “king”.  Who was he a compound unity with?(See Pierre?  This is where the study pays off.  I am fully prepared to an…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2011,21:14)Hopefully, I Ed J, can get him to understand I seek agreement.Not necessarily with the wording, but with the truth we hold dear!Ahhhhh! The dreams of old. May God be with you and guide you on your journey to agreement with Paladin. I'm happy disagreeing with him, for he tells unscriptural tales.peace,mike

Quote (Pastry @ July 19 2011,05:32)Mike! Ok but you never said you used the original transcript, until Paladin….Hi Irene,Then you have apparently forgotten about the time, months ago, when I gave you the link to NETBible? The post where I explicitely showed you how to find the actual Hebrew or Greek words used, and how to find the various…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2011,23:18)so what you have learned is it from you and your effortsthat you have come to the true understanding?if you say yes then it is for your own glory that you have worked,So for WHOSE glory did YOU read your twelve translations, Pierre?  For WHOSE glory do YOU defend the scriptures from the onslaught of the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 18 2011,23:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 19 2011,14:52)Hi Ed,So then the answer is “NO”?  I'm no more sure from YOUR words than I was from his.  Are you trying to say, “NO Mike, he was NOT saying echo prohibited Jesus from asking for the return of a past glory” ?Hi Mike,Ha ha ha ha..No, that's what you're saying; but I can agree w…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 18 2011,22:33)Mike,This is the equation, both the Father and the Son are the same nature, no need to change it:1 divine father + 1 divine son = 1 divine unityAnd both of my human fathers were of the same nature also, so it is really MY equation that fits best with what you're trying to claim.  But I'll lose the “father”…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 18 2011,23:21)One of the demons answered as the representative of the group.  The name of the group was 'legion.'Okay, so we agree that ONE demon, and ONLY ONE demon was addressed by Jesus and answered him at first.  So it is very fitting for that ONE demon to say, “MY name is Legion”, right?  And there is no reason from th…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 19 2011,13:00)Mike,I think that it was both their decision and foreordained before the foundation of the world.Is there a scripture where JESUS' will is the one done in heaven or on earth? Is there a scripture where their “combined will” is done?Or are there only scriptures where the Father's will is done, and Jesus…[Read more]

Hi Theo,13 Nevertheless, Moses said to the God: “Suppose I am now come to the sons of Israel and I do say to them, ‘The God of YOUR forefathers has sent me to YOU,’ and they do say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What shall I say to them?” 14 At this God said to Moses: “I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE.” And he added: “This is what you…[Read more]

Hi Wm,As I remember, our disagreement in the “Is Jesus an Angel” thread stemmed from you thinking you had answered my question already because you didn't notice that I tweaked the original question the second time I asked it, in order to narrow down your response.  So the second question was actually a brand new question, that you only assumed…[Read more]