Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2011,21:16)Gen 40:1Pharoah is called adown, not adonaysee here:http://classic.net.bible.org/verse.p….verse=1Then check it in Biblos.com, for NETBible doesn't specify the plurality or singularity of the word “adon” in any scripture…………from what I could tell when I put this info together.  Biblos does.Quote…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2011,20:44)The unity of the Father and the Son made the plan and to carry it out, the Father sent His Son.I'm aware of the many scriptures that say the Father sent His Son. I am unaware of the scripture(s) that contain the rest of the information you claimed. Perhaps you could point me to the scripture(s) that tell us…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2011,17:31)Mike,I'm just answering your questions for my benefit to know that I canWell, keep working on your presentation then, Kathi.  Because so far, you haven't produced one single shred of evidence worthy of convincing even a third grader that the Son OF God is also a co-equal member of the God he is the Son…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 01 2011,16:28)Is Jesus less than “the” man because He is the Son of “the” Man?Hi Jack,Jesus would naturally be of the same nature as “the man” he was the son of…………….we all are right?But he would not BE “the man” he was the son of, right?So Jesus can have the same nature as “the God” he is the Son of.  But he…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2011,20:19)This was one of your hurdles that I had to get over and I did.Hi Kathi,Please don't waste your time trying to convince me of the nonsense you've been posting lately.  I'm not buying and never will.  Jesus is the only begotten SON OF the Most High God Jehovah, and that's really all there is to it.But you say y…[Read more]

True Irene.This is from a paper I wrote a couple of years ago:Most Bibles translations (including the NIV) do not use the name Jehovah anymore.  The reasons why can be summed up by the preface of the Revised Standard Version.  It says that while the original American Standard Version rendered the tetragrammaton as Jehovah, their revised version u…[Read more]

Viva las Amigos!

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 31 2011,18:40)Again, if this is a natural evolution then the inevitable conclusion would also be natural. You see STU if you don't belive in God then you should accept the fact that this function of belief as disturbing as it may be to you is serving its natural purpose and being that would be the case, how can you…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ July 26 2011,19:54)However, my true desire is to have KJ answer why he must prove jesus is god.Bump for Jackaroo

Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2011,18:20)You don't seem to respect the original text here which is the inspired word of God. The original text had a 'he' and a 'his' for a compound unity.According to who, Kathi? According to Biblos.com, the Hebrew words mean “their eyes” and “their ears”, etc. And according to the LXX, those same Hebrew words mean…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2011,18:15)Context is king as to how 'most high' is to be understood.So let the context teach you Kathi:Psalm 97:9For you, O Jehovah, are the Most High over all the earth; you are exalted far above all gods.Luke 1:32He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his…[Read more]

Nice Shimmer.

Quote (princess @ July 31 2011,17:25)Mike, Quote There is only one story of the creation that I'm aware of, PrincessThen you need to become more aware, Mike.Enlighten me then. What other story of creation is told in the inspired written word of God?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,21:50)Since we all now KNOW of the existence of OTHER saviors in the scriptures, what exactly is it that makes them “shadow saviors” while Jesus is “the real McCoy”? 1. Was not Jesus SENT by his God to be a savior just like all of the other ones? 2. Was he not empowered by his God? 3. Did he not follow the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2011,08:51)Quote (Lightenup @ July 29 2011,00:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,22:30)Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,23:20)Pierre,Here is your scripture:See my notes in parenthesis:Isaiah 19:20It will become a sign and a witness to the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the LORD (Jehovah our…[Read more]

That's right Irene.Jehovah God is the One called “the Most High” in many scriptures. Kathi would have us believe that the unity of Jesus and the Father constitute the Most High God.But even the demons knew Jesus was not a part of the Most High God, but the Son of Him:Mark 5:7He shouted at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, <…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2011,15:59)wj,has is own believe on that and so Christ should listen to him and not the other way around ,

I agree Irene.

There is only one story of the creation that I'm aware of, Princess.  And that one involves a woman being produced from the rib of a man for the purpose of being the man's companion.  I don't enjoy this discussion at all, since I can see that it truly hurts and insults you to be in the position you are in.  In fact, I almost deleted my previous po…[Read more]

Yeah Pierre,But this thread gives them the opportunity to show us all the times when Jesus, IN HIS OWN WORDS, taught that he was God Almighty, or equal to Him.Let's see if any of them take the challenge. peace,mike